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Old 02-08-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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USCIS fees are set where they are because (at least the section dealing with immigration) is meant to be self-funding. Why should American taxpayers subsidize the bureaucracy necessary to process visa applications? Let the visa applicants fund it themselves via the fees.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Yet, Mexicans are here by far in the largest numbers legally. It doesn't matter whether one can afford the fees or not we have quotas for legal immigration that are filled every year. If we actually needed any immigrants above that quota wouldn't we make sure that they are able to come here somehow? That's the part you aren't gettiing. Aside from the steep fees there are more immigrants that want to come here than we can accomodate without it negatively impacting our own citizens. That is why coming here illegally is so wrong. Or don't our own citizens matter?
Aside from an "investment visa", having a higher income to be able to pay petition fees does not otherwise qualify someone to legally immigrate...

There still seems to be a notion that some random foreign national, from even a country which cannot participate in the Diversity Visa Lottery program, is able to fill out some forms, pay a petition fee, and legally immigrate to the United States...

What is giving people that perception?...
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Just a quick point about female Chinese coming to Canada to have a baby.

Yes, the child will be granted Canadian Citizenship.........BUT ONLY IF THE MOTHER IS ALSO A CANADIAN CITIZEN. If she is not a citizen, or a permanant resident of Canada, no citizenship for the child, according to the law in Canada.

Jim B

Toronto.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Canada had better wake up or they are going to have the same mass illegal immigration problem that we do.
Canada has laws they enforce ,we dont. You will not work in canada for long if you are an illegal with NO WORK PERMIT..
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Just a quick point about female Chinese coming to Canada to have a baby.

Yes, the child will be granted Canadian Citizenship.........BUT ONLY IF THE MOTHER IS ALSO A CANADIAN CITIZEN. If she is not a citizen, or a permanant resident of Canada, no citizenship for the child, according to the law in Canada.

Jim B

Toronto.
Not true in the least. If you are born in Canada you are a Canadian period. The only exception to that is if you are a diplomat or attached to a foreign embassy.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Crestliner:

You are correct. As I have stated in the thread before..........Every LEGAL Immigrant in Canada has a Government photo ID card, that they have to produce..............To rent an apartment, open a bank account, get a health card, get a driver`s license, get car insurance, get a job, get a loan, register a child for school.

And our Police are encouraged to ask those that they have dealings with......What is your immigration status `, and show me your Immigration ID card please , now. No ID card, you are under arrest, for Immigration investigation, and detention. That is how we control things in Canada. It works for us.

Yesterday, my wife and I returned from The Bahamas, by air, to Toronto. At the Immigration check point, there are two lines, one for Canadian citizens returning, and permanent residents , and one for visitors to Canada.

As citizens we simply insert our passports into a computer slot, along with a form that we filled in on the aircraft, and it scans the passports, and the form, and in less than 30 seconds we are given the `green light `and walk to the CBSA agent, who checks the form, and waves us through to baggage pick up. Visitors on the other hand are subject to a personal interview with a CBSA agent, and a thorough check of their documents and baggage. Permanent residents can also use the computer check in system, by inserting their PR card and the on board form that they fill out on the plane.

Jim B

Toronto.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Aside from an "investment visa", having a higher income to be able to pay petition fees does not otherwise qualify someone to legally immigrate...

There still seems to be a notion that some random foreign national, from even a country which cannot participate in the Diversity Visa Lottery program, is able to fill out some forms, pay a petition fee, and legally immigrate to the United States...

What is giving people that perception?...
Um, I don't recall saying that nor anyone else saying that.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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Just a quick point about female Chinese coming to Canada to have a baby.

Yes, the child will be granted Canadian Citizenship.........BUT ONLY IF THE MOTHER IS ALSO A CANADIAN CITIZEN. If she is not a citizen, or a permanant resident of Canada, no citizenship for the child, according to the law in Canada.

Jim B

Toronto.
That is the kind of policy I wish our country would adopt. The mother should have to be the qualifer.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:18 PM
 
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Crestliner:

You are correct. As I have stated in the thread before..........Every LEGAL Immigrant in Canada has a Government photo ID card, that they have to produce..............To rent an apartment, open a bank account, get a health card, get a driver`s license, get car insurance, get a job, get a loan, register a child for school.

And our Police are encouraged to ask those that they have dealings with......What is your immigration status `, and show me your Immigration ID card please , now. No ID card, you are under arrest, for Immigration investigation, and detention. That is how we control things in Canada. It works for us.

Yesterday, my wife and I returned from The Bahamas, by air, to Toronto. At the Immigration check point, there are two lines, one for Canadian citizens returning, and permanent residents , and one for visitors to Canada.

As citizens we simply insert our passports into a computer slot, along with a form that we filled in on the aircraft, and it scans the passports, and the form, and in less than 30 seconds we are given the `green light `and walk to the CBSA agent, who checks the form, and waves us through to baggage pick up. Visitors on the other hand are subject to a personal interview with a CBSA agent, and a thorough check of their documents and baggage. Permanent residents can also use the computer check in system, by inserting their PR card and the on board form that they fill out on the plane.

Jim B

Toronto.
I knew there was a reason I wanted to move to Canada. A country that respects its own borders and enforces their immigration laws certainly earns my respect and admiration.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Um, I don't recall saying that nor anyone else saying that.
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Yet, Mexicans are here by far in the largest numbers legally. It doesn't matter whether one can afford the fees or not we have quotas for legal immigration that are filled every year. If we actually needed any immigrants above that quota wouldn't we make sure that they are able to come here somehow? That's the part you aren't gettiing. Aside from the steep fees there are more immigrants that want to come here than we can accomodate without it negatively impacting our own citizens. That is why coming here illegally is so wrong. Or don't our own citizens matter?
Your phrasing it as a desire ("want to come", as well as terminology that seems to put the qualification only to fees that would be paid by the immigrant themselves) puts it in a context other than being qualified (a legitimate ability to be sponsored) to legally immigrate...
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