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Old 02-06-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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No surprise that Texas is dark orange.

Some days you'd think you were in Nuevo Leon or Coahuila.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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How are they suppose to know exactly how many illegals are in this country, in the first place? And then document how many are working? There are a lot more than the 11 million they claim, and how society encourages it by not enforcing our immigration laws. Illegals cost this country billions, in health care cost, and schooling their children for free, along with other subsidies.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Hollywood Hills
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There's a lot of them here in Los Angeles but no one seems to care. We need them, they are cheap labor.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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There's a lot of them here in Los Angeles but no one seems to care. We need them, they are cheap labor.
Who's "we"?
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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How are they suppose to know exactly how many illegals are in this country, in the first place? And then document how many are working? There are a lot more than the 11 million they claim, and how society encourages it by not enforcing our immigration laws. Illegals cost this country billions, in health care cost, and schooling their children for free, along with other subsidies.
That's the $80 Billion question. With the exception of DHS recording apprehension and deportation numbers, which are deliberately manipulated to support a "secure borders" agenda, none of our government agencies collect data on illegal immigration. Not the Census Bureau, IRS, SSA, or DOL. So, how on earth can they produce reports compiled from a non-existent source?

Yet, the Census Bureau can tell us how many are here and when they arrived, categorized by race, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, marital status, region and state. IRS can tell us the amount they pay in taxes, the billions fraudulently refunded, as well as their child tax credits. DOL can tell us how many are in the workforce or currently unemployed, categorized by region, state, occupation, education, average wage, and annual household income. And, SSA frequently extols their large social security contributions. How do they do it?

On the other hand, they need to "come out of the shadows" to be identified by the government. Otherwise, the government has no idea who they are, or where they live.

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Old 02-07-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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Who's "we"?
The cheap labor elite who want unlimited numbers of servants and ultra cheap factory workers pouring over the border.

Illegals living in Los Angeles arne't exactly picking lettuce though.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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The cheap labor elite who want unlimited numbers of servants and ultra cheap factory workers pouring over the border.

Illegals living in Los Angeles arne't exactly picking lettuce though.
Yes, of course but when the statement is made that "we" need the cheap labor it implies that regular, law abiding Americans want and need them here and employ them and that simply isn't true nor are we responsible for the actions of these greedy employers.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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Yes, of course but when the statement is made that "we" need the cheap labor it implies that regular, law abiding Americans want and need them here and employ them and that simply isn't true nor are we responsible for the actions of these greedy employers.
Those "Greedy Employers" are who the GOP calls "Job Creators". Why don't you ask your elected representative what he thinks should happen to those who hire illegal labor?
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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There's a lot of them here in Los Angeles but no one seems to care. We need them, they are cheap labor.
You don't "need" illegal aliens; it sounds like you WANT them to save money.
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