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Old 02-10-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Malamute IS right: otherwise those millions of illegal aliens from Mexico would STAY in Mexico.
Hahahaha, no "malamute" is not right in saying Mexico has peeled off its lowest underclass for them to come to the United States. That doesn't even scale out to the adjoining countries. Why do the the people that haven't been to Mexico rely on his opinion?

 
Old 02-10-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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Hahahaha, no "malamute" is not right in saying Mexico has peeled off its lowest underclass for them to come to the United States. That doesn't even scale out to the adjoining countries. Why do the the people that haven't been to Mexico rely on his opinion?
The fact remains that the Mexican government is glad that they are here rather than in Mexico. They are even trying to dictate our immigration policies to us and advocating for our government to allow them to remain here. What does the assumption that someone hasn't been to Mexico have to do with that fact?
 
Old 02-10-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey
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That's strange. In my experience with native Spanish-speakers, most of them speak English to me even if I try addressing them in my (admittedly broken) Spanish. These weren't illegals, presumably, but they were people working as cleaning ladies, restaurant workers, shop assistants, etc. In the few instances when these folks clearly didn't understand English, they typically grinned sheepishly and shook their heads apologetically.

I lived in a neighborhood that was predominantly Mexican, but my impression was that people there generally kept to themselves, and didn't usually approach strangers, especially Anglos. If they were illegal immigrants, I would think that would go double. Maybe my experience is more limited than the OP's, but I can't imagine a scenario where Hispanics who didn't speak English would run up to me, blurt out something in Spanish, and then take offense if I didn't respond/understand.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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That's strange. In my experience with native Spanish-speakers, most of them speak English to me even if I try addressing them in my (admittedly broken) Spanish. These weren't illegals, presumably, but they were people working as cleaning ladies, restaurant workers, shop assistants, etc. In the few instances when these folks clearly didn't understand English, they typically grinned sheepishly and shook their heads apologetically.

I lived in a neighborhood that was predominantly Mexican, but my impression was that people there generally kept to themselves, and didn't usually approach strangers, especially Anglos. If they were illegal immigrants, I would think that would go double. Maybe my experience is more limited than the OP's, but I can't imagine a scenario where Hispanics who didn't speak English would run up to me, blurt out something in Spanish, and then take offense if I didn't respond/understand.
I agree and I wouldn't know an illegal immigrant from a legal one or a Hispanic citizen either just by looks or usage of Spanish. What I find odd is that even those who know how to speak English many won't unless they have to. These aren't people who have limited English skills either. They speak perfect English but don't want to.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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How can anyone tell whether someone is here illegally or not? Speaking a different language or looking Hispanic just doesn't cut and you'll end up looking like a fool if assumed wrong. .
 
Old 02-10-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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That's strange. In my experience with native Spanish-speakers, most of them speak English to me even if I try addressing them in my (admittedly broken) Spanish. These weren't illegals, presumably, but they were people working as cleaning ladies, restaurant workers, shop assistants, etc. In the few instances when these folks clearly didn't understand English, they typically grinned sheepishly and shook their heads apologetically.

I lived in a neighborhood that was predominantly Mexican, but my impression was that people there generally kept to themselves, and didn't usually approach strangers, especially Anglos. If they were illegal immigrants, I would think that would go double. Maybe my experience is more limited than the OP's, but I can't imagine a scenario where Hispanics who didn't speak English would run up to me, blurt out something in Spanish, and then take offense if I didn't respond/understand.
You certainly don't live in California or where I live.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 06:36 PM
 
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That's strange. In my experience with native Spanish-speakers, most of them speak English to me even if I try addressing them in my (admittedly broken) Spanish. These weren't illegals, presumably, but they were people working as cleaning ladies, restaurant workers, shop assistants, etc. In the few instances when these folks clearly didn't understand English, they typically grinned sheepishly and shook their heads apologetically.

I lived in a neighborhood that was predominantly Mexican, but my impression was that people there generally kept to themselves, and didn't usually approach strangers, especially Anglos. If they were illegal immigrants, I would think that would go double. Maybe my experience is more limited than the OP's, but I can't imagine a scenario where Hispanics who didn't speak English would run up to me, blurt out something in Spanish, and then take offense if I didn't respond/understand.
You certainly don't live in California or where I live.

And what is Anglo? Do you mean someone of the anglo-saxon tribe of people that settled in various parts of Europe or do you mean a Brit? I hope you're not using it as that racial slur word that is sometimes used to mean Americans.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 06:39 PM
 
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Hahahaha, no "malamute" is not right in saying Mexico has peeled off its lowest underclass for them to come to the United States. That doesn't even scale out to the adjoining countries. Why do the the people that haven't been to Mexico rely on his opinion?
You are an out and out liar, I've stated many times that I have traveled to most parts of Mexico, I lived and studied in Mexico. I think you're trying to break the rules by not sticking to the topics but attempting to use personal attacks on people who you don't agree with.

We all get it -- you want no enforcement of the immigration laws, you want huge rewards for those who break the laws including those who commit felony document fraud. I don't want that.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: southern california
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spanish and arab people speak to me in their native language bek i got that sort of face. no big deal.
get over it.
btw i speak spanish.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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How can anyone tell whether someone is here illegally or not? Speaking a different language or looking Hispanic just doesn't cut and you'll end up looking like a fool if assumed wrong. .
Uh; with attitudes in 2013: if a "brown Hispanic" person is speaking Spanish, that is of the "Spanglish" type, many of us will ASSUME they're an illegal alien. The La Raza people brought it on themselves by demanding "bilingual" this and that.
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