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Old 02-12-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
He's doing things the right why by doing what needs to be done in order to become a US citizen. These things take time, but you knew that already didn't you?

Thats a false statement.

the correct way is to apply for citizenship BEFORE YOU SWIM ACROSS THE BORDER...

 
Old 02-12-2013, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Originally Posted by pch1013 View Post
"Aleman, who was brought illegally to the United States by his parents when he was 11, was one of the first Las Vegas residents to get his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) work permit"

What part of that constitutes "criminal behavior" on his part?

The part where he does not report his parents to ICE for taking him out if his home country against his will.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
You're just upset that someone who isn't a legal citizen is being treated better than you ever have in all the time you've been a legal citizen of the United States.

You're doing this:

Stop it.
You call it jealousy, American citizens who are opposed to the special treatment that the majority of illegals get are resentful, not jealous.

Assuming you are a American citizen, please explain why should illegals be given special treatment over American citizens? The mere fact that our laws were ignored and not enforced since 1986 was giving illegals special treatment by not capturing and deporting.

Illegals got special treatment because all they did was this: poor me . And now the are because they want to know "what about my parents?" - who don't qualify for a path to citizenship. If someone qualifies for the path and they are 18 or older, they are adults and as such, in the US you are considered responsible for yourself. They don't need mommy/daddy/grandma/grandpa - and they should be deported. I hope the government doesn't get softer in the head and think that these adults still needs their mommy, daddy, grandma/grandpa.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic View Post
Nice try, but your imagined liberal enemy is not even 1% of the population here. I hate the city government but to call them liberal shows your ignorance of the situation.

Chicago has issues but nobody cares about illegal immigrants. I've lived in buildings and worked with people who I suspected were. Why should I care about them? All I hear from the right winger crowd is how they're savage parasites and I'm not buying it.
You don't have to buy what others tell you just research on your own and you will find that illegal immigants are costing us billions. Common sense will tell you sans crop picking illegal immigrants are doing jobs that Americans will do. What about our immigration laws? Does that mean nothing to you either?
 
Old 02-12-2013, 08:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by NoJiveMan View Post
That's the point with some people, they dislike, and really believe EVERYONE who came here illegally, and who have had children born in the USA SHOULD BE DEPORTED.
HEAD 'EM UP, MOVE 'EM OUT.
America is no longer a melting pot, get away, stay out, no trespassing!
What does the melting pot have to do with "illegal" immigration? Are you not aware that we allow in a million legal immigrants per year? So what's with your "no trespassing" BS?
 
Old 02-12-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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You have a smart guy who wants to be a doctor AND join the Airforce and you're complaining that he has a work permit and wants to stay in this country and become a citizen? Most of you spend half your time yammering that there aren't enough doctors in this country--isn't this a good thing? Why would you not want to keep a really smart kid in this country who's going to wind up paying a ton of taxes and contributing to needs in our society? We WANT people to come to this country who contribute big things vs. wind up on welfare. Good grief... This "all immigrants are bad" thing is ridiculous.
How many of these illegal immigrants are doctor material? Get real, will you? Who the hell said anything about all immigrants being bad? The topic is illegal immigration by the way.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The President already said they could stay for 2 years and get work permits.
The President said they had legal status now so they can get SS cards and driver licenses.
The President has also allowed them to apply for a US visa without having to leave the country.

Yet you're still arguing that they are here illegally and should be deported.
Reality and and Executive Order say different.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post

He's not a criminal unless convicted by a court of law. I have no idea what you don't understand about this. If he was a criminal then he'd be getting deported out of the country.
I don't know what you don't understand about Administrative/Immigration Law. He is an admitted criminal. Its that simple.

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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
He's doing things the right why by doing what needs to be done in order to become a US citizen. These things take time, but you knew that already didn't you?

Matter of fact, why do you even care? You're just upset that someone who isn't a legal citizen is being treated better than you ever have in all the time you've been a legal citizen of the United States.

You're doing this:

Stop it.
Except he can't become a US Citizen with what he is doing, your ignorance in the matter stands out. The only way he can become a US citizen is by AMNESTY from Congress, there is absolutely no other way.

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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
The President already said they could stay for 2 years and get work permits.
The President said they had legal status now so they can get SS cards and driver licenses.
The President has also allowed them to apply for a US visa without having to leave the country.

Yet you're still arguing that they are here illegally and should be deported.
Reality and and Executive Order say different.
They have lawful status, not legal status, they are 2 different things, lawful status doesn't change their illegal status, where as legal status would. They can not apply for a visa without leaving the country, you have that confused with a waiver. There is no EO.

There is so much incorrect in your comment, its laughable. ....

Yes, we are still arguing DACA recipients are still illegal and should be deported. That is reality.
 
Old 02-13-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
He's doing things the right why by doing what needs to be done in order to become a US citizen. These things take time, but you knew that already didn't you?

Matter of fact, why do you even care? You're just upset that someone who isn't a legal citizen is being treated better than you ever have in all the time you've been a legal citizen of the United States.

You're doing this:

Stop it.

Why should they be?
Are you a legal citizen?
 
Old 02-13-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
The President already said they could stay for 2 years and get work permits.
The President said they had legal status now so they can get SS cards and driver licenses.
The President has also allowed them to apply for a US visa without having to leave the country.

Yet you're still arguing that they are here illegally and should be deported.
Reality and and Executive Order say different.
Are they citizens?
Why are you so accepting of this?
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