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Old 02-11-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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"Aleman, who was brought illegally to the United States by his parents when he was 11, was one of the first Las Vegas residents to get his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) work permit"

What part of that constitutes "criminal behavior" on his part?
Breathing the air

walking down the street

driving a car

working


Anything he did in the USA prior to the Obamnesty that was granted to pander for votes constitutes criminal behavior.

 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Breathing the air
so its illegal to breathe air?


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Anything he did in the USA prior to the Obamnesty that was granted to pander for votes constitutes criminal behavior.
As demonstrated you don't know what a criminal act even is.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The SSA keeps a suspense file. If you don't know what that it maybe it's time to read up on it.

In 2009 it had nearly 8 million W-2s and had collected $994 BILLION in taxes.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Can you say "misdemeanor" as in "high crimes and misdemeanors" as in IMPEACHMENT. Who's next, bank robbers.
Well, he does hang out with ex-cons.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by pch1013 View Post
"Aleman, who was brought illegally to the United States by his parents when he was 11, was one of the first Las Vegas residents to get his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) work permit"

What part of that constitutes "criminal behavior" on his part?
Once he turned 18 he became responsible for himself. He is still an EWI illegal. His criminal behavior still qualifies as a Federal Misdemeanor, not a civil violation equal to a speeding ticket.

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If he has a work permit, he's not here illegally anymore.
A work permit doesn't change ones status from illegal to legal. DACA has granted him deferred action, which doesn't change his status, he is still an illegal immigrant. Work authorization merely allows him to work here to survive while he is on deferred action, he is still an illegal.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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No, I don't care enough about whether that specific person was in the "seat of honor" at the SOTU, which was the intent of your persistent questioning, was it not?

I'm still waiting for you or anyone else to explain why that guy should be treated as a criminal for something his parents made him do when he was 11. And what was he supposed to do, anyway? Run away from home as soon as he realized he was illegal?
He should be treated like a criminal because he's an illegal alien.

Question: Do you believe that we have the resources and infrastructure to accommodate anyone in the world who wants to immigrate to this country?

So where do we draw the line?
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: California
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How is this person illegal?
He came here as an EWI, thus he is here illegally. Once he turned 18 he became responsible for himself, since he is still here and has received a DACA deferral, he is still an illegal with nothing more than deferred action for 2 years. The deferred action does not count against his time being here as an EWI illegal, nor does it change his status to legal.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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Once he turned 18 he became responsible for himself. He is still an EWI illegal. His criminal behavior still qualifies as a Federal Misdemeanor, not a civil violation equal to a speeding ticket.
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) work permit.


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A work permit doesn't change ones status from illegal to legal. DACA has granted him deferred action, which doesn't change his status, he is still an illegal immigrant. Work authorization merely allows him to work here to survive while he is on deferred action, he is still an illegal.
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) work permit

He is allowed to be here whether you like it or not. It's allowing him the time to BECOME legal, something that would be difficult for him to do if he was forced back to a country he's never seen since he was a child.

How would you like to be deported back to say Chile, if you were brought here by your parents at age 2? You know nothing about Chile, don't speak the language, don't even care about the politics of Chile, but you've contributed to American civilization by going to college and working, have friends and volunteer from time to time.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't care enough one way or the other.

I'm just wondering why some are accusing this guy of being a criminal for something his parents made him do when he was 11.
Maybe because once he turned 18 he became responsible for himself?
 
Old 02-11-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Which Americans have shown they are not interested in doing. My mother worked in a processing plant when she was in high school. Most of those she worked with were immigrants on job work visas or high school students wanting a first job. You didn't see anyone from Harvard working on the floor.





If they've made it into law enforcement or education, then how can they be illegal aliens? They are legal immigrants who sought to be here legally. How are they taking away jobs of Americans? By doing better than Americans?


Nice that you don't link to anything that says this.

I see folks in my town that don't work there anymore and Tyson has been raided several times over illegals. These are men and women who used to work there and would work there again. No they are not Harvard material by no means. Basic HS education.

Forgery..that's how illegals can get into LE
Alaska cop found to be illegal immigrant: prosecutors | Reuters

It's ok to be pro-illegal. I don't care. Just stop spouting about jobs that "Americans don't want" because that is just not true.
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