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Old 02-11-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
So crossing the border to live here is as insignificant as jaywalking to you ?
If they aren't harming anyone, then yes it is.

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Well we have 11-20 million border jaywalkers living in this country.
cool. Care to show us how jaywalking hurts you personally?

 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Arus View Post
and by breathing air he's committing a crime?

Do you jaywalk? Oops you committed a crime.

Go faster than the speed limit? Oops you committed a crime.

Did you drink before 21 years of age? Oops you committed a crime.

Have you ever littered? Drive without a license? Drive without insurance? Crossed against the red? Didn't do a complete full stop at a stop sign? Raced to beat the gates at a train track?

Thrown a Frisbee at a beach, without a lifeguard in the area? (California /. Los Angeles law).

Used a fire arm to fish? (A crime in Wyoming).

Ever pronounced Arkansas wrong? (Its illegal to do so in Arkansas).


There are serious crimes committed every day; worst than a person who is simply trying to live his life, in America, but the only thing wrong with him was that he was brought here illegally.

AGain, why should a person who came here through force of his parents, at the age of 11 be forced to to go back to a country he knows nothing about?
I see you have no idea of what a crime is vs what a violation (infraction) is. A crime has Misdemeanor or Felony behind it, a violation, ie jaywalking, speeding, etc, is nothing more than a fine.

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That's why I asked for which you ignored:

How would you like to be deported back to say Chile, if you were brought here by your parents at age 2? You know nothing about Chile, don't speak the language, don't even care about the politics of Chile, but you've contributed to American civilization by going to college and working, have friends and volunteer from time to time.

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funny how anti-immigrants avoid facing that immigration isn't so black and white.
I ignored it? Funny, I responded to it with:
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Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns View Post
People move and go to different countries all the time. I have lived abroad for several years. So I say, boo hoo to your BS. So the child in your scenario doesn't talk to its parents? Most children are actually bilingual, that alone shows your scenario BS. Going to college and working contributes to American civilization? So your 2 YO who went to public school costing roughly $9K per year has already paid that $100K back in taxes? Hell, its parents haven't even paid that much in property taxes.

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That isn't going to happen anytime soon. when the American dream being sold is to get an education and when you pay good money for higher education, you don't start in a process plant at minimum wage with no benefits. You graduate and get a 6 figure job and let the uneducated work those jobs.
And yet I gave you a link already that shows that those business models of those farmers have changed already, they have mechanized, planted less labor intensive crops, began using the H2A visa.

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Old 02-11-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The GOP is bringing admitted draft dodger and convicted poacher--and certifiable nutcase--Ted Nugent.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by Arus View Post
Have you gone over the speed limit? you're a criminal.
Have you ever jaywalked? then you're a criminal
Have you littered? then you're a criminal



all those are infractions, crossing over the borders of a nation is not an infraction. if you dont like the law, then move elsewhere.

if we had most countries border laws, alot of illegals would be getting more than just a slap on the hand, a free meal and a free ticket back over the border.


http://www.schools.com/news/differen...s-and-felonies
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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The State of the Union should be interesting with criminals in the seat of Honor.
Hey, its payback for all of those votes.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Did you ask Ronnie Rayguns the same question?
Hmmmmm.
It's Ronald Reagan, ms insulter. He didn't implement an amnesty by executive order. He also lived to regret signing that amnesty because it was promised that our borders would be secured and that didn't happen. Now we have at least 4 times the number amnestied back then and we have 23 million Americans out of work and our economy is in the dumpster.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Did you ask Ronnie Rayguns the same question?
Hmmmmm.


dont even go there, we could start going with the ugly obama names and liberals would be really ticked.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes he can legalize himself through DACA. Like every other immigrant who legalizes himself here. they live here as a productive member for the required number of years (many are already qualified), take the citizenship test, take the interview, and then take the oath.
NO, they can not. I suggest you do some research and prove that they can legalize while being in DACA, get back to us when you have that info. I'll be waiting to hear it. LMFAO

Other immigrants are legally entering on immigrant visas, they don't legalize here. Some that enter on the VWP or on non-immigrant visas apply for a change of status which takes them from one visa type to another.

You don't seem to adept on immigration laws.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they aren't harming anyone, then yes it is.



cool. Care to show us how jaywalking hurts you personally?
It hurts Americans who only have a HS education and can only find low paying jobs.
It hurts American youth who typically get entry level positions which are low paying jobs.

Because it doesn't hurt YOU you think it hurts no one ?
They are NOT all picking crops like you seem to think.
They are working construction, retail, service, etc. the low paying jobs that Americans USED to do.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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If they aren't harming anyone, then yes it is.



cool. Care to show us how jaywalking hurts you personally?


Your arguments are simply way beyond ridiculous. Your asinine attempt to compare illegal immigration to jaywalking has to be the most pathetic attempt to poo poo illegal immigration that I've ever seen. You better believe that we can show how illegal immigration is harming people.
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