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Old 03-16-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Either find a hospital to make a legal stand or a state legislature to
put something together.

WTH hasn't this been done yet? We where close in Arizona recently,
but absolutely no significant movement on this abuse since then.

BTW. I was born in another country to U.S. Citizen parents. Guess
what my citizenship is? Why people bring up the poor children with
no country B.S. is comical. You are born the citizen of the
country your parents are citizens of, period. Why would we have it otherwise?

If I was from another country and didn't want my kids to have U.S. citizenship,
why should it be forced upon them. I wish we could find some lone wolf in that
situation, who could sue the government for claiming jurisdiction over their children,
against their will.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...BTW. I was born in another country to U.S. Citizen parents. Guess what my citizenship is?...
Believe it or not, if neither of your parents (even if married to each other) had any residency within territory of the United States prior to your birth, you would not have derived U.S. citizenship from them:

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Kinda shoots a hole in the concept that citizenship would be derived from parentage...
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Either find a hospital to make a legal stand or a state legislature to
put something together.

WTH hasn't this been done yet? We where close in Arizona recently,
but absolutely no significant movement on this abuse since then.

BTW. I was born in another country to U.S. Citizen parents. Guess
what my citizenship is? Why people bring up the poor children with
no country B.S. is comical. You are born the citizen of the
country your parents are citizens of, period. Why would we have it otherwise?

If I was from another country and didn't want my kids to have U.S. citizenship,
why should it be forced upon them. I wish we could find some lone wolf in that
situation, who could sue the government for claiming jurisdiction over their children,
against their will.
I agree, but, as long as that idiot Obama is in the WH nothing will change.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:55 AM
 
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Either find a hospital to make a legal stand or a state legislature to
put something together.

WTH hasn't this been done yet? We where close in Arizona recently,
but absolutely no significant movement on this abuse since then.

BTW. I was born in another country to U.S. Citizen parents. Guess
what my citizenship is? Why people bring up the poor children with
no country B.S. is comical. You are born the citizen of the
country your parents are citizens of, period. Why would we have it otherwise?

If I was from another country and didn't want my kids to have U.S. citizenship,
why should it be forced upon them. I wish we could find some lone wolf in that
situation, who could sue the government for claiming jurisdiction over their children,
against their will.
Why would a hospital go against the US constitution? What would they have to gain?
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: texas
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How does the Hospital facilatate citizenship? The Hospital only provides birth services. The county clerk certifies the birth.

Society accepts that birth child as a citizen of the US. Change the concept of Americans that a birth in the US is a citizen birth.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I would change the law so that you are born a US citizen only if one of your parents is a US citizen.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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We have discussed birthright citizenship in here multiple times. There has been bills proposed to reinterpret the meaning of the 14th. Most countries require that a newborn have at least one parent be a citizen of the country in order for them to be granted birthright citizenship. It is time that we follow suit. It is costing us billions granting the newborn's of illegal parents birthright citizenship. It makes a mockery out of our citizenship, IMO.

The problem is getting congress to move on it. I think most of the objection to the change is from the Democrats. They are the same ones who want amnesty for illegal immigrants also. Go figure. The polls show that most regular Americans want this change.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: texas
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People believe born on US soil = US citizen. You gat to change the whole of American society. Democtrats and republicans are a reflection of the electroarate.

Born on US soil = US citizen
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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The law was never intended for illegals to use it as a way to get around the immigration laws of this country. Birth is being used as a easy pass around the laws, and obviously the quick and easy way to access the government handouts.

The law was only intended for the children of slaves. It's only really how the law is being interpreted but the law's intention is in the past. It's best to replace this law with something that fits the modern situation -- which is that we offer far too generous of welfare handouts that only entice those who can't make it in their own countries to come on in.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The law was never intended for illegals to use it as a way to get around the immigration laws of this country. Birth is being used as a easy pass around the laws, and obviously the quick and easy way to access the government handouts.

The law was only intended for the children of slaves. It's only really how the law is being interpreted but the law's intention is in the past. It's best to replace this law with something that fits the modern situation -- which is that we offer far too generous of welfare handouts that only entice those who can't make it in their own countries to come on in.
"The law"? The 14th Amendment has the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause in addition to the Citizenship Clause. It's a landmark notion in its entirety, and not just limited to the descendents of slaves.
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