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Old 04-09-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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I have been reading all the articles online about the plans for Immigration Reform and I have not seen anything about how we are going to verify the people applying for work are legal or not. (After immigration reform is passed)

If they are talking about immigration reform why don't they talk about reforming how business verify the right an applicant for employment has to work in America. The current system does not work. Illegal Immigrants are using fake ID's and stealing identities. And few employers are using E-Verify. (Which is flawed but better than nothing)

Does anyone know what they are proposing to verify that job applicants have the right to work in America? Nationwide E-Verify or something else?
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:59 AM
 
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I have been reading all the articles online about the plans for Immigration Reform and I have not seen anything about how we are going to verify the people applying for work are legal or not. (After immigration reform is passed)

If they are talking about immigration reform why don't they talk about reforming how business verify the right an applicant for employment has to work in America. The current system does not work. Illegal Immigrants are using fake ID's and stealing identities. And few employers are using E-Verify. (Which is flawed but better than nothing)

Does anyone know what they are proposing to verify that job applicants have the right to work in America? Nationwide E-Verify or something else?
I don't have any links saved but I believe I read that the Republicans want e-verify mandated as a part of any so-called reform aka amnesty package. It's still a bad deal because those that would qualify for amnesty would be able to retain the jobs they are holding and those not working yet would be able to compete with Americans for jobs.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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Thats why the are promoting propaganda polling. Most Americans don't want it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Maybe we've been reading different reports, and listening to different discussions on the cable channels ... but I'm reading/hearing discussion of the verification. Let's wait until the legislation is actually introduced and 'fleshed out' before criticizing "what if's." I support strong measures to punnish employers who hire persons without verifying their status. When they do that, and if they've been shown not to have complied with whatever regulations are approved ... I say put them out of business. No 'three strikes,' no 'two strikes.' The first time you're caught ... you're out of business, for good. Regarding the claims of "amnesty": That's only so much b.s. dreamed up by the right-wing extremists, IMO.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Maybe we've been reading different reports, and listening to different discussions on the cable channels ... but I'm reading/hearing discussion of the verification. Let's wait until the legislation is actually introduced and 'fleshed out' before criticizing "what if's." I support strong measures to punnish employers who hire persons without verifying their status. When they do that, and if they've been shown not to have complied with whatever regulations are approved ... I say put them out of business. No 'three strikes,' no 'two strikes.' The first time you're caught ... you're out of business, for good. Regarding the claims of "amnesty": That's only so much b.s. dreamed up by the right-wing extremists, IMO.
I STRONGLY agree that the first offense should sting hard. Deport the illegal aliens and give the dirt bag business owner some time and a fine that hurts.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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Maybe we've been reading different reports, and listening to different discussions on the cable channels ... but I'm reading/hearing discussion of the verification. Let's wait until the legislation is actually introduced and 'fleshed out' before criticizing "what if's." I support strong measures to punnish employers who hire persons without verifying their status. When they do that, and if they've been shown not to have complied with whatever regulations are approved ... I say put them out of business. No 'three strikes,' no 'two strikes.' The first time you're caught ... you're out of business, for good. Regarding the claims of "amnesty": That's only so much b.s. dreamed up by the right-wing extremists, IMO.
You've been proved wrong by both myself and Liquid Reigns. It doesn't take a right wing extremist to see that it isn't "reform" but amnesty. It just takes common sense and a dictionary.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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It doesn't take a right wing extremist to see that it isn't "reform" but amnesty.
What it takes is someone who either cannot comprehend what's being said, or who makes-up things because it's easier. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Opine all you want about whatever, but when you try to pass-off falsehoods as facts/truths ... you know what doing that says about a person ...
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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What it takes is someone who either cannot comprehend what's being said, or who makes-up things because it's easier. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Opine all you want about whatever, but when you try to pass-off falsehoods as facts/truths ... you know what doing that says about a person ...
Right, the dictionary is wrong and you are right. Yes, I do know what spinning of words says about a person. This whole CIR bogus claim is nothing but spin.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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What it takes is someone who either cannot comprehend what's being said, or who makes-up things because it's easier. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Opine all you want about whatever, but when you try to pass-off falsehoods as facts/truths ... you know what doing that says about a person ...
You say it's not amnesty...prove it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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Lets try to go back to my original question!

Answer me this: How do you think they are going to deal with current illegal aliens who apply for the right to work in America legally but are waiting for their background check to move through the bureaucracy. It could take years to do the background check in an era of government funding cuts, what happens in the mean time?

* QUESTION/COMMENT: If they give the illegal alien the right to work and live here legally while they wait for the application to be processed, then everyone will get immediate amnesty and the right to work- including criminals and those that just arrived after swimming across the river. Supporters of comprehensive immigration reform: What do you say about this question?
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