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Old 04-11-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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Interesting article on a migrant worker shortage in California. Your thoughts below.
NationalJournal.com - In Migrant-Worker Shortage, Strawberries Are Spring's First Endangered Crop - Wednesday, February 20, 2013
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why would they want to pick crops when they can work min wage blue collar jobs that make more money ?

LOL..the illegals took the jobs Americans don't want to do and now there's no one to take the illegals' jobs....
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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COuld have saw this coming... coud have.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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What a joke! There are unlimited visas for foreign LEGAL farmworkers.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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Yes, there are no caps on H2A visas, but once the illegals have a US born baby, they can lay around on welfare handouts. They don't really want to do the hard work kinds of jobs. They really are not some special race of hard workers content with low pay.

The fact is, without the food stamps, free health care, free meals in our schools, most would not be here, they really cannot afford the high cost of living without all the government assistance.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, there are no caps on H2A visas, but once the illegals have a US born baby, they can lay around on welfare handouts. They don't really want to do the hard work kinds of jobs. They really are not some special race of hard workers content with low pay.

The fact is, without the food stamps, free health care, free meals in our schools, most would not be here, they really cannot afford the high cost of living without all the government assistance.
And they can still earn a day's wage (under the table) as a day worker on a construction site.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: California
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Why haven't the farmers used the H2A visa?
This from the link is the giveaway
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Many farmers want the immigration-reform bill to permit more seasonal workers, perhaps allowing some who amass a certain total of work days to stay permanently.
The H2A is unlimited...there is no F'n cap to the total number of laborers they can bring in. USCIS - H-2A Agricultural Workers

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COuld have saw this coming... coud have.
I see it every year, farmers in CA have complained about labor shortages as far back as the 70's.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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The same complaints are coming from the orchards of eastern Washington, but it's only been in the last 2-3 years. Farmers say that many workers have gotten too old, and the younger ones, immigrant or otherwise, go up the ladder then hide and start texting. They quit soon after because they are not making any money, pay is $25/bin so if you don't pick you end up at barely minimum wage, while good workers are a bin ($25)/hour. They have been talking about using prisoners.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:51 PM
 
Location: California
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The same complaints are coming from the orchards of eastern Washington, but it's only been in the last 2-3 years. Farmers say that many workers have gotten too old, and the younger ones, immigrant or otherwise, go up the ladder then hide and start texting. They quit soon after because they are not making any money, pay is $25/bin so if you don't pick you end up at barely minimum wage, while good workers are a bin ($25)/hour. They have been talking about using prisoners.
Excellent point.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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The same complaints are coming from the orchards of eastern Washington, but it's only been in the last 2-3 years. Farmers say that many workers have gotten too old, and the younger ones, immigrant or otherwise, go up the ladder then hide and start texting. They quit soon after because they are not making any money, pay is $25/bin so if you don't pick you end up at barely minimum wage, while good workers are a bin ($25)/hour. They have been talking about using prisoners.
Illegals get too old once they've given birth and get their Section 8 and food stamps and think they're too good to have to work for a living.

There are fewer then 1 million jobs in all of agriculture and not all these jobs are filled with illegals, but once the illegals get here and comfortable, they're not about to do this kind of work, so the emplolyers want many millions new illegals every year.
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