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Old 04-13-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Can you provide a link showing showing the remittances legal/citizen vs illegals sending them?
I know I've posted it on the forum before. Search. Specifically for Mexico, remittances lined up rather logically, U.S. citizens with links to Mexico, legal residents from Mexico, and illegal aliens from Mexico all sending about a third of the total amount.

Why is this topic getting deflected into being about remittances?...
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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I know I've posted it on the forum before. Search. Specifically for Mexico, remittances lined up rather logically, U.S. citizens with links to Mexico, legal residents from Mexico, and illegal aliens from Mexico all sending about a third of the total amount.

Why is this topic getting deflected into being about remittances?...
Perhaps you could tell me what the source of your stats were and then I would be glad to search for it under that website. Logically? Since no one knows how many illegal immigrants are in our country how would anyone know which remittances are being sent by them vs citizens/legal immigrants?

It isn't anything new for topics to get deflected. I believe you yourself have been guilty of that as I have been also. If one doesn't like it then perhaps they shouldn't respond to off topic remarks.

This is interesting that I just found. Note that this is strictly about Mexican "immigrants" not citizens and we all know how so many of these articles call illegal immigrants just plain old immigrants. Not saying that some of these stats don't include legal immigrants but it certainly is food for thought.

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/201...9791326403141/

Last edited by Oldglory; 04-13-2013 at 04:14 PM.. Reason: additional info
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Perhaps you could tell me what the source of your stats were and then I would be glad to search for it under that website. Logically? Since no one knows how many illegal immigrants are in our country how would anyone know which remittances are being sent by them vs citizens/legal immigrants?

It isn't anything new for topics to get deflected. I believe you yourself have been guilty of that as I have been also. If one doesn't like it then perhaps they shouldn't respond to off topic remarks.

This is interesting that I just found. Note that this is strictly about Mexican "immigrants" not citizens and we all know how so many of these articles call illegal immigrants just plain old immigrants. Not saying that some of these stats don't include legal immigrants but it certainly is food for thought.

Mexican immigrants sending more money home - UPI.com
I just read that article. There are some illegals that would make better citizens than some of the citizens we have now.

A house cleaner doesn't make much money yet this immigrant, legal or not, is able to have enough to live on AND send some to Mexico.

We have citizens here working and on government programs to subsidize them and they are still not happy.
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...This is interesting that I just found. Note that this is strictly about Mexican "immigrants" not citizens and we all know how so many of these articles call illegal immigrants just plain old immigrants. Not saying that some of these stats don't include legal immigrants but it certainly is food for thought.

Mexican immigrants sending more money home - UPI.com
Along with contesting that more numerous U.S. citizen and legal residents with ties to Mexico are sending more money to Mexico than illegal aliens, you are thinking that a news article saying "immigrants" is excluding U.S. citizens from remittance totals? Are we in some sort of ridiculous loop again like representing only 2009 for Mexicans gaining legally residency and Mexican Nationals naturalizing in that year as the total number of "legal" Mexicans?

You sure have a way of being goofy with data...
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Most Americans are not supportive of this.
Actually most Americans do support it. Even the majority of Republicans.

Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay in US
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Actually most Americans do support it. Even the majority of Republicans.

Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay in US
The Huffington Post? Yeah, there's a real unbiased source. Where's their link to this AP poll? I'd like to see how the questions were worded also.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:53 AM
 
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The Huffington Post? Yeah, there's a real unbiased source. Where's their link to this AP poll? I'd like to see how the questions were worded also.
It is how you ask the question. If the poll says "Should we let the undocumented immigrant stay in America if they pay a penalty, learn English, etc?" Then most will say yes, because they use the words undocumented or immigrant, words that confuse people. But if they said, "should we let illegal aliens, who used fake identification to work illegally and did not pay federal income taxes and did not learn fluent English stay in America," then most people would say no. But in the end they are voting on the same people, just describing them differently.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Huffington Post? Yeah, there's a real unbiased source. Where's their link to this AP poll? I'd like to see how the questions were worded also.
Normally along the lines of:


Have you stopped beating your wife?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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Actually most Americans do support it. Even the majority of Republicans.

Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay in US
Dream on. We so-called "haters" know better.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: texas
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The only poll that counted was taken on Nov. 6. The only legislation before Congress on Immigration is the current CIR.
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