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Old 04-12-2013, 06:06 AM
 
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According to the news once the new immigration reform bill passes MOST of the current 11-20 million illegal aliens in America will be legal immediately. What do you think about this?

The media, and it's corporate masters, is trying to confuse the issue by talking about a path to citizenship for the 11-20 million current illegal aliens. They say the illegals will have to pay a fine, learn English and have a clean background to become a citizen.

I SUSPECT that the majority of the current illegals really don't care much about being a US Citizen, instead, they just want to live legally in America so they can work and have a higher quality of life than they did in Latin America or other Third World Countries they came from. The instant legalization they will get from the Comprehensive Immigration Reform will allow them to have their dream of living and working in America legally.

What do you think about the plan for instant legalization for the 11-20 million Illegal Aliens?

If you support comprehensive immigration reform do you support the instant legalization of all illegal aliens once the bill is passed? How about the current illegals who:

Just arrived here
Took someone else's identity to work in America
Did not pay income taxes because they had taken someone else's identity
Are in a immigration prison currently
Are in jail currently but are to be released soon (after the bill is passed)
Drove illegally
Had committed minor crimes
Have a current deportation order
Came back to America after being deported
Are collecting some type of welfare
Are unemployed
Speak no English at all

What should be done with the current illegal aliens that fit in the group above? I am particularly interested in hearing from people who support comprehensive immigration reform.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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secure the border before passing any criminal illegal immigration.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:54 AM
 
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secure the border before passing any criminal illegal immigration.
Please... I want to hear from supporters of immigration reform!
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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Please... I want to hear from supporters of immigration reform!
I just can't understand how anyone could support this ?!?!?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: USA
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According to the news once the new immigration reform bill passes MOST of the current 11-20 million illegal aliens in America will be legal immediately. What do you think about this?

The media, and it's corporate masters, is trying to confuse the issue by talking about a path to citizenship for the 11-20 million current illegal aliens. They say the illegals will have to pay a fine, learn English and have a clean background to become a citizen.

I SUSPECT that the majority of the current illegals really don't care much about being a US Citizen, instead, they just want to live legally in America so they can work and have a higher quality of life than they did in Latin America or other Third World Countries they came from. The instant legalization they will get from the Comprehensive Immigration Reform will allow them to have their dream of living and working in America legally.

What do you think about the plan for instant legalization for the 11-20 million Illegal Aliens?

If you support comprehensive immigration reform do you support the instant legalization of all illegal aliens once the bill is passed? How about the current illegals who:

Just arrived here Fine by me. Just close the borders and create a path to citizenship.
Took someone else's identity to work in America Could be just for work reasons. Acceptable IMO.
Did not pay income taxes because they had taken someone else's identityPay back taxes.
Are in a immigration prison currently If its not for something criminal (drivers license, etc) let them out.
Are in jail currently but are to be released soon (after the bill is passed) We don't need more criminals.
Drove illegally Allow them to become citizens.
Had committed minor crimes Allow them to become a citizen based on crimes
Have a current deportation order Depends on deportation reason
Came back to America after being deported Case by case.
Are collecting some type of welfare Not an issue if they're working
Are unemployed Depends on how long they've been here. If they have a long unemployment record they could be a criminal. Case by case basis.
Speak no English at all Not an issue. Rosetta Stone stock may increase.

What should be done with the current illegal aliens that fit in the group above? I am particularly interested in hearing from people who support comprehensive immigration reform.

Interesting thread. Good discussion. I listed my responses in bold.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:09 AM
 
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I just can't understand how anyone could support this ?!?!?
Most Americans are not supportive of this.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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Interesting thread. Good discussion. I listed my responses in bold.
Why?


Why do you think we should reward them?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Please... I want to hear from supporters of immigration reform!
Here's a supporter for you:

“Politicians know that if they stand in the way of citizenship we will steamroller them,” AFL-CIO director of immigration Ana Avendaño said, according to the Financial Times. “That’s a fun evolution.”

AFL-CIO: We Will 'Steamroller' Any Lawmaker Who Opposes Amnesty

Apparently some union leaders don't care about anything but making them citizens
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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You don't have to be a supporter of Comprehensive Immigration Reform to undwerstand that the term " legal immediately" has no concept in reality.

You can If you want to, argue that IF a CIR bill is passed, then those seeking to become citizens would be allowed to remain in the US without worry of deportation till their cases with Immigraion is resloved.

Most would say...It doesnt make much sense to ask them to provide information as to their presence here in the US and ask that they follow a process of legalization, only to deport them prior to their completion of the process.

This reform is Legalization. Legalization takes a process. If CIR passes and is signed into law, then it will become the law of the land.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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You don't have to be a supporter of Comprehensive Immigration Reform to undwerstand that the term " legal immediately" has no concept in reality.

If you want to argue that IF a CIR bill is passed, then those seeking to become citizens would recieve be allowed to remain in the US without worry of deportation till their cases with Immigraion is resloved.

It doesnt make much sense to ask them to provide information as to their presence here in the US and ask that they follow a process of legalization, only to deport them prior to their completion of the process.

This reform is Legalization. Legalization takes a process. If CIR passes and is signed into law, then it will become the law of the land.
You're right actually. It makes sense to just deport them.
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