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Old 04-13-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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We have the US Government sponsoring Spanish speaking commercials in Mexico explaining our welfare benefits.

WHY ? Why do we have USDA Spanish commercials in Mexico talking about SNAP benefits ?
Where did you hear that from?
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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We have the US Government sponsoring Spanish speaking commercials in Mexico explaining our welfare benefits.

WHY ? Why do we have USDA Spanish commercials in Mexico talking about SNAP benefits ?
Source, especially since it is a topic deflection? The origins of this OP story even sound strange. A rancher supposedly overhears a single illegal alien "some time ago" say an improperly constructed statement in Spanish, and immediately makes a political claim with it?

Discussion is devolving into calling the unknown illegal alien "arrogant", and aligning him as part of some conspiracy...
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Where did you hear that from?
The USDA has had a "partnership" with Mexico since 2004.
The purpose was to educate Mexican nationals living in the US about SNAP in their language.
Why in their country is beyond me though. Mexico agreed to distribute the USDA info/ads/etc. in their country via their Embassies and other outlets.

USDA Partners With Mexico To Boost Food Stamps | Sweetness & Light

Now with sequester the USDA has agreed to furlough meat inspectors but will continue to fund this partnership.

A lot of this information is public news but not found on the major MSM sites.
People need to start expanding beyond Fox and Huffpost and CNN and MSNBC and really start reading.

1000 poultry inspectors were layed off. Not furloughed mind you but layed off.
The USDA is going to let the chicken industry "self regulate".

USDA to Allow Chicken Industry to Self-Regulate
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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We have the US Government sponsoring Spanish speaking commercials in Mexico explaining our welfare benefits.

WHY ? Why do we have USDA Spanish commercials in Mexico talking about SNAP benefits ?
Seriously?? Wow. I have no words!
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The USDA has had a "partnership" with Mexico since 2004.
The purpose was to educate Mexican nationals living in the US about SNAP in their language.
Why in their country is beyond me though. Mexico agreed to distribute the USDA info/ads/etc. in their country via their Embassies and other outlets.

USDA Partners With Mexico To Boost Food Stamps | Sweetness & Light

Now with sequester the USDA has agreed to furlough meat inspectors but will continue to fund this partnership.

A lot of this information is public news but not found on the major MSM sites.
People need to start expanding beyond Fox and Huffpost and CNN and MSNBC and really start reading...
Your (outdated) source does not support the claim that SNAP promotions are provided in Mexico. Furthermore you are stating the program is continuing even during "sequester". Is your news recent enough to know this Bush-era program has been abandoned?

Regurgitated Daily Caller ("If there isn't news, we'll invent it") hyperbole really isn't in any way reputable "public news"...

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...1000 poultry inspectors were layed off. Not furloughed mind you but layed off.
The USDA is going to let the chicken industry "self regulate".

USDA to Allow Chicken Industry to Self-Regulate
And what has that to do with illegal aliens, or the topic at hand?...
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well IBMuseum, what I posted was that the USDA has prioritized keeping the funding for their Mexican partnership while cutting US meat inspectors instead.

The USDA considers their partnership with Mexico a pretty high priority.

The partnership formed in 2004..nearly 9 years ago and you call my source "outdated" ?
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Well IBMuseum, what I posted was that the USDA has prioritized keeping the funding for their Mexican partnership while cutting US meat inspectors instead...
But you are unable to provide a reliable source that reports the program with Mexican Consulates has continued after the "sequester" cuts, much less your claim that SNAP promotions were aired in Mexico. You haven't posted anything showing "prioritized" funding by the USDA. SNAP benefits are not accessible to illegal aliens, so why would you even put this topic deflection here in the first place?

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...The USDA considers their partnership with Mexico a pretty high priority.

The partnership formed in 2004..nearly 9 years ago and you call my source "outdated" ?
And yet no one had any issues with it when the Bush II administration started the program, and had more meetings with Mexican Consulates than USDA officials under Obama have had. That's twice you have said something about this program having a "priority". You didn't hear that it was ended under President Obama?

President Clinton cut food stamp access for all non-citizens (even legal immigrants here longer than five years, and paying taxes) in 1996, which Bush II reinstated in 2002. But "Conservatives" seem thoroughly confused about those facts, and the timeliness to what food programs were created (and ended) by which presidential administrations. As long as it is a good sound-bite, they'll wait to say it until their guy has left office.

Wasn't the "Daily Caller" paying off Dominicans to lie about Democratic Senator Menendez?...
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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But you are unable to provide a reliable source that reports the program with Mexican Consulates has continued after the "sequester" cuts, much less your claim that SNAP promotions were aired in Mexico. You haven't posted anything showing "prioritized" funding by the USDA. SNAP benefits are not accessible to illegal aliens, so why would you even put this topic deflection here in the first place?



And yet no one had any issues with it when the Bush II administration started the program, and had more meetings with Mexican Consulates than USDA officials under Obama have had. That's twice you have said something about this program having a "priority". You didn't hear that it was ended under President Obama?

President Clinton cut food stamp access for all non-citizens (even legal immigrants here longer than five years, and paying taxes) in 1996, which Bush II reinstated in 2002. But "Conservatives" seem thoroughly confused about those facts, and the timeliness to what food programs were created (and ended) by which presidential administrations. As long as it is a good sound-bite, they'll wait to say it until their guy has left office.

Wasn't the "Daily Caller" paying off Dominicans to lie about Democratic Senator Menendez?...
SNAP however is available to anyone who has U.S. born children even if the parents are here illegally.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But you are unable to provide a reliable source that reports the program with Mexican Consulates has continued after the "sequester" cuts, much less your claim that SNAP promotions were aired in Mexico. You haven't posted anything showing "prioritized" funding by the USDA. SNAP benefits are not accessible to illegal aliens, so why would you even put this topic deflection here in the first place?



And yet no one had any issues with it when the Bush II administration started the program, and had more meetings with Mexican Consulates than USDA officials under Obama have had. That's twice you have said something about this program having a "priority". You didn't hear that it was ended under President Obama?

President Clinton cut food stamp access for all non-citizens (even legal immigrants here longer than five years, and paying taxes) in 1996, which Bush II reinstated in 2002. But "Conservatives" seem thoroughly confused about those facts, and the timeliness to what food programs were created (and ended) by which presidential administrations. As long as it is a good sound-bite, they'll wait to say it until their guy has left office.

Wasn't the "Daily Caller" paying off Dominicans to lie about Democratic Senator Menendez?...
That's right. The issue came about with the radio novelas the USDA did that got pulled in 2012.
I clearly stated when the program started..2004. I ASSumed people would know the politics involved here.
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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That's right. The issue came about with the radio novelas the USDA did that got pulled in 2012.
I clearly stated when the program started..2004. I ASSumed people would know the politics involved here.
And you still have not provided any supporting information on your initial claim that the SNAP program was promoted within Mexico, nor which administration if it was. Nothing to say that the "high priority" of the USDA working with Mexican Consulates is still occurring with sequester cuts. You assumed that people would know the political parties involved, but stated it as currently occurring:

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We have the US Government sponsoring Spanish speaking commercials in Mexico explaining our welfare benefits.

WHY ? Why do we have USDA Spanish commercials in Mexico talking about SNAP benefits ?
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