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Old 04-16-2013, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns View Post
Nobody is proposing a round-em up and head em out approach. Every post in here has been about deterrents.
Um actually they did. Someone posted a link this article.

"More than half of U.S. citizens believe that most or all of the country's 11 million illegal immigrants should be deported,"

Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported

They would have to be rounded up before they could be deported.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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On this we agree. And I believe the most effective tool to most quickly curtail the influx and/or presence of illegal aliens is to adopt and then enforce harsh penalties for employers who enable the illegals to enter/remain in the country. Let's 'dry up' the opportunities for illegals and then, when we get close to that point, we may really learn what supply of foreign workers we should allow into the country in the specific categories.
That will never happen. The 1%ers love their cheap foreign labor. The same reason that they outsource our jobs to China.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: southern california
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well that makes sense. 52% of american voted against romney.
46% of americans work.
meaning 54% dont.
yes 60% of americans probably do support illegal immigration.
personally i dont support anything illegal.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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This is a false poll.

Most Americans are against it.
And you know that, because you have talked to over half of the 300 million Americans?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Our constitution is what says they should go.
Um, no it doesn't.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Those that do not support illegal immigration are not racists bastards. I am sure that a few are...most are just simple people who believe that if you have laws - laws are to be respected. If you do not respect the laws of a nation - then you do not respect the people of the nation...Liberals that do not respect rule of law do not respect people in general. To respect is to empower...You can not empower one group through the dis-empowerment of another- that's called abuse.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: California
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Um actually they did. Someone posted a link this article.

"More than half of U.S. citizens believe that most or all of the country's 11 million illegal immigrants should be deported,"

Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported

They would have to be rounded up before they could be deported.
I see comprehension and understanding isn't being followed. Where does it say they should be rounded-up? All it says is the same as what has been said, illegals should be deported, period. That doesn't mean to round them up, it simply means to deport them as they are caught instead of releasing them back into the public ala what ICE did with 2,000+ just recently.

They would only need to be caught to be deported.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: California
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That will never happen. The 1%ers love their cheap foreign labor. The same reason that they outsource our jobs to China.
You haven't a clue about anything, all you are doing is espousing rhetoric and propaganda.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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There is one problem with that plan. The United States Constitution.
Things CAN be changed.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: California
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Our constitution is what says they should go.
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Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say anything about illegal aliens?...
We've been over this before.

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Um, no it doesn't.
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Immigration

The Constitution never uses the word immigration, so how is it that the rules for immigrants, and quotas for countries, are set by the federal government and not by the state governments? After all, as the 10th Amendment states, are the powers not delegated to the United States held by the states, or the people?

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]). It would not make sense to allow Congress to pass laws to determine how an immigrant becomes a naturalized resident if the Congress cannot determine how, or even if, that immigrant can come into the country in the first place. Just because the Constitution lacks the word immigration does not mean that it lacks the concept of immigration.

There is also an argument that immigration is an implied power of any sovereign nation, and as such, the federal government has the power to regulate immigration because the United States is a sovereign nation. While it is true that the United States is a sovereign nation, and it may be true that all sovereign nations have some powers inherent in that status, it is not necessary to determine if immigration is such a power that does not even require constitutional mention, because the Naturalization Clause handles the power.
Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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