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Old 04-13-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay in US

ERICA WERNER AND DENNIS JUNIUS | January 22, 2013 03:22 PM EST |

WASHINGTON — A new Associated Press-GfK poll has found that more than 60 percent of Americans now favor allowing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country.

That's a significantly higher number than last time the AP polled on the question, in 2010, when just 50 percent supported the idea.

The turnaround has been driven by Republicans changing their views. A majority in the GOP – 53 percent – now favor allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. That's up 22 percentage points from 2010.

The findings come amid Republican soul-searching about how to broaden the party's appeal to Latino voters. And they come as President Barack Obama prepares to push immigration legislation.
Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay in US
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Doesn't matter what Americans say..it's what Congress passes and the President signs.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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60% of Americans support allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens.

If your premise is true, which I sincerely doubt, put it to a national vote and see what the results look like. I could be wrong, but I doubt that they would turn out the way the government and the press wish they would.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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The Huffington Post? I note they didn't provide a link to the poll or how the questions were worded.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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The Huffington Post? I note they didn't provide a link to the poll or how the questions were worded.
Sorry I should have provided a better link. The story and the poll is from the Associated Press and was carried on numerous news sites today. The poll was done by research company GfK.

The Associated Press is kind of a major news source, I think.

AP-GfK Poll: Most back path to citizenship for illegal immigrants as Republican opposition declines

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THE AP-GfK POLL January, 2013
Conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Corporate Communications
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: California
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The poll asks if they strongly favor (35%) or somewhat favor (27%) somewhat oppose (12%) and strongly oppose (23%).

So only 35% really favor a path to citizenship and 27% probably favor legalization, while 12% could also be for legalization and 23% would want total deportation.

Again that would be 35% citizenship, 27-39% legalization, and 23% deportation.
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Overall, the poll found 35 percent strongly favored allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens over time, while 27 percent favored the idea somewhat. Just 35 percent of Americans opposed the approach, with 23 percent strongly opposed and 12 percent somewhat opposed.
For the AP to claim a 62% for citizenship is a fallacy based on the answers. The 62% should be for legalization instead. While 35% would be for citizenship and 35% would be for deportation. Interpretation is everything, but when there is a political bias in the reporting, how can one follow it as gospel?
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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The poll asks if they strongly favor (35%) or somewhat favor (27%) somewhat oppose (12%) and strongly oppose (23%).

So only 35% really favor a path to citizenship and 27% probably favor legalization, while 12% could also be for legalization and 23% would want total deportation.

Again that would be 35% citizenship, 27-39% legalization, and 23% deportation.For the AP to claim a 62% for citizenship is a fallacy based on the answers. The 62% should be for legalization instead. While 35% would be for citizenship and 35% would be for deportation. Interpretation is everything, but when there is a political bias in the reporting, how can one follow it as gospel?
I'm not sure what you are getting at. Its really pretty simple. 62% strongly or somewhat favor a legal way for illegal immigrants already in the United States to become U.S. citizens. 35% strongly or somewhat oppose it.

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Old 04-13-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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How many times do I have to repeat myself?

THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A LEGAL WAY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO BECOME LEGAL: Go home and apply for LEGAL immigration like every legal immigrant!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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I think the wording should have been different. They should have asked whether or not to give the illegal immigrants amnesty.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:24 PM
 
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I'm not sure what you are getting at. Its really pretty simple. 62% strongly or somewhat favor a legal way for illegal immigrants already in the United States to become U.S. citizens. 35% strongly or somewhat oppose it.
Simple? If it were so simple they wouldn't have asked if they were strongly in favor or somewhat in favor. Strongly we can definitely believe citizenship, somewhat, not so much, but we can bet they would be for legalization. So you see its not so simple really, its more misleading in the way that the numbers were interpreted by the AP, claiming 62% for citizenship, when only 35% can be truly used.

The best you can do is define what "somewhat" means, how can someone be for somewhat favoring citizenship? Could somewhat mean legalization? I would bet yes.
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Bad news for the haters.
Hardly At best, this pole shows a path to legalization by a majority.
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