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Old 04-23-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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"The roof's falling in, but let's discuss fixing the dripping bathroom faucet first".

No illegal immigration should be tolerated, but the porous Mexican border is overwhelmingly the main problem. Fix that and the vast majority of the problem is solved.
Exactly. Fix the biggest problem first and work down the list.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Not a proposal which is in keeping with American, or Christian values.
So it is un-American and non-Christian to want our immigration laws enforced? It's un-American and non-Christian not to want lawbreakers rewarded?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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For many people ... yes ... it's about the illegality. I'll agree with you about that. But for many others, as we've seen here on C-D ... it's really about the color of someone's skin or their ethnicity. Not always easy to separate the two. If you have a better and realistic idea of how to deal with the 10+ million illegal aliens from around the world who are present in the USA today ... I'm all ears. Thanks.
The only ones making this about skin color and ethnicity are the ethnocentric pro-illegals.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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The illegal Irish enjoyed, for many years, government officials looking the other way which allowed them to stay. They're white. Tend top be educated. And Ted Kennedy and other prominent Irish-Americans were on their side. For these reasons they, for the most part, blended-in and evaded the law.
No.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Ireland, Spain, Italy, Germany and so on do just that so why not the US?

So ILLEGAL aliens breaking a bunch of laws ARE "American" values? Sheesh!
Unfortunately, the way things are going, that's pretty much correct. It's now "American" to be an uneducated loser to get whatever handouts and freebees you can by whatever means necessary.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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The only ones making this about skin color and ethnicity are the ethnocentric pro-illegals.
Yes in general that is correct.

If it was 11- 20 million Illegal Mongolians, Finns, Serbs or Zulus they would be crying to high Heaven, But God forbid that anyone expect that Illegal Hispanics be held accountable for anything.


ILLEGAL = ILLEGAL no matter how you try and FAIL to spin it !!!
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:57 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I've said this so many times before, but it bears repeating.

I don't care where you're from. I don't care what color your skin is, what religion you are, what ethnicity you are, or what your sexual orientation is.

All I expect from my fellow humans is for them to follow the law, do unto others, and keep their noses out of other peoples' private business. That is the social contract I expect everyone to sign. The rest is just noise...details.

If you're here legally, fine. Go about your business.

If you're here illegally, go home. We don't want you here.

Simple as.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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A hand full of Irish aren't causing the problems the millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of hispanics are that are here "without documentation" < that means as illegal tresspassers....case n point. We should limit the number of hispanics to the same number of Irish and Russians here and then we will have parody. < That means fairness..lol
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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The illegal Irish enjoyed, for many years, government officials looking the other way which allowed them to stay. They're white. Tend top be educated. And Ted Kennedy and other prominent Irish-Americans were on their side. For these reasons they, for the most part, blended-in and evaded the law.
Where did you get this information? I say NOT SO
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: USA
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"The roof's falling in, but let's discuss fixing the dripping bathroom faucet first".

No illegal immigration should be tolerated, but the porous Mexican border is overwhelmingly the main problem. Fix that and the vast majority of the problem is solved.
The border issues should be addresses but not with a wall as there are always was to get around or under them. As the Boston bombers showed, we should be much more selective who we let in from all around the world.
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