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Old 04-24-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Uh; many kids raised in the US but born elsewhere to NON US citizen parents have been deported. Not just Hispanic kids.

If you want to try to "deport" me because I want my country's borders controlled, have at it. I ain't breaking any laws.

I dont care what ethnicity or documented origin they are. If they live here since youth, they are essentially American. Most people agree with this.

I take it a step further, because such a view to deport a children who are American by default often to unknown countries is simply a variety of immoral labels.

As an Afghan war vet who served with such people of that background(who were later given residency citizenship) I have no problem calling anyone who holds that view a terrorist.

The Taliban think of Children in the same regard, whether forcing family separations or murdering family members. So yeah, if you want to harm innocents such as children, I consider you a terrorist worthy of deportation to say the least.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: southern california
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going up on he 3rd amnesty. each time they promised to secure the borders. liars.
firing civil servants that refuse to enforce the law they swore to uphold--- would save a bundle.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:59 PM
 
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Arrow say what?

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Not all kids learn their parents native tongue. Are you kidding me?

Deporting kids, essentially defacto American kids to an largely unknown country of origin with a language barrier is a pretty good example of terrorism in my book. Screwing up lives that badly, and as I can tell from your posts out of anger and hate is primary aspect of terrorism.

Especially since so many have gone out of their to expand the definition of terrorism and terrorist, i dont have a problem calling anyone with a desire to destroy lives that.
You know who 'destroyed' their lives? Their parents who brought them to our country knowing they were breaking laws to do so. We're not advocating sending children home alone. They can be sent back the same way they came here...together. As for the those 'children' who are now adults, they need to take responsibility for staying here after they were aware that it was illegal to do so. At some point you have to grow up and accept responsibility for your own actions.
They're not 'defacto' anything, they're illegal aliens. You claim that we are "terrorists" for wanting to send these children to an 'unkown country of origin with a language barrier' . What do you think their parents did? Now, who is the terrorist??
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Illegal is illegal. I don't care how they got here. Our laws state they should be deported. It's nonsense that these so-called kids only speak English. They would know their parent's native language otherwise how would they have communicated with them pre-school? The whole family needs to go back to their homelands where they belong.

I resent your remarks that this equates to a terrorist threat or that citizens who want our immigration laws enforced are scumbags and should be deported. Are you kidding me?


Old Glory, it has changed. Illegal means illegal entry is accepted, and once here! we shall reward you! Welcome mat and all.

Citizens who want immigration laws enforced, Are the ones who have pride and glory in this Country!

Plain and simple!

Old Glory today, rules and laws are not followed, but scare tactics, bullish remarks, blalckmail, are used in force by this fudgin whack job adminsitration.

Reid, is a fudgin you know, when he uses scare tactics and Republicians when he makes remarks why cancer research etc etc etc, has to stop. I resent this remark since i had a father who died and not from a party affiliation. But due to smoking, that friggin scumbag.

I hate people who constantly blame the other side, when they most likely cannot look themself in the mirror

Janet Pelosi, the whole gang, are nothing but bad liars.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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You know who 'destroyed' their lives? Their parents who brought them to our country knowing they were breaking laws to do so. We're not advocating sending children home alone. They can be sent back the same way they came here...together. As for the those 'children' who are now adults, they need to take responsibility for staying here after they were aware that it was illegal to do so. At some point you have to grow up and accept responsibility for your own actions.
They're not 'defacto' anything, they're illegal aliens. You claim that we are "terrorists" for wanting to send these children to an 'unkown country of origin with a language barrier' . What do you think their parents did? Now, who is the terrorist??
So according to you since the parents did that, the child or now aged adult should be punished per the law.

I doubt you hold similar views on abortion.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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So according to you since the parents did that, the child or now aged adult should be punished per the law.

I doubt you hold similar views on abortion.

You would be wrong! I think the parents in both cases carry the full reponsibilty for their actions. In the case of the 'now aged adult' .....umm, I think it's too late to consider abortion.
Look, I'm not about 'punishing' the child dragged here against their will, but I don't think they should be rewarded for their parent's illegal acts either. Can you name me one other crime where we reward the children of the criminal? Do bank robber's kids get special treatment? Rapists kids??
All of this is beside the fact that merely sending a child (WITH it's parents) back to their country of origin is hardly punishment. Do you lock your doors? Car Doors? House doors? Or are you ok with anyone coming in anytime they please? to do whatever they please?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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You would be wrong! I think the parents in both cases carry the full reponsibilty for their actions. In the case of the 'now aged adult' .....umm, I think it's too late to consider abortion.
Look, I'm not about 'punishing' the child dragged here against their will, but I don't think they should be rewarded for their parent's illegal acts either. Can you name me one other crime where we reward the children of the criminal? Do bank robber's kids get special treatment? Rapists kids??
All of this is beside the fact that merely sending a child (WITH it's parents) back to their country of origin is hardly punishment. Do you lock your doors? Car Doors? House doors? Or are you ok with anyone coming in anytime they please? to do whatever they please?
."MilitantHuman" got banned. I'm guessing its posts pissed off a Moderator.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:02 AM
 
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Not all kids learn their parents native tongue. Are you kidding me?

Deporting kids, essentially defacto American kids to an largely unknown country of origin with a language barrier is a pretty good example of terrorism in my book. Screwing up lives that badly, and as I can tell from your posts out of anger and hate is primary aspect of terrorism.

Especially since so many have gone out of their to expand the definition of terrorism and terrorist, i dont have a problem calling anyone with a desire to destroy lives that.
What a PATHETIC sob story, When do we start deporting their ILLEGAL parents ???
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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This is all a problem of respect for the law. I don't want to hear any sob story about the poor, innocent, kids. For one thing; they are not all innocent. All have at least committed the crime of illegally entering our country. Some are gang members. Some are involved with drugs. And all of them want something for nothing – they did not work or pay into the system (or were even asked to do so).

Yes; our country needs immigrants – ones that follow the law and proper procedures. We do not need anybody that makes their own laws or turns a blind eye to our laws. The parents are the ones that should be admonished for setting a bad example for their offspring – it is not up to the American taxpayer to pick up the tab.

We are not fighting wars overseas so that we have open borders at home. If we are going to protect our citizens; we have to have structure (laws and enforcement).
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Considering those around here who claim to dislike her, that's a signal to me that she's doing a very good job.

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