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Old 10-31-2007, 04:05 PM
 
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OK HB1804

Now, I don't understand the one about no public assistance because they've been getting it and Oklahoma Health Care Authorities just passed another bill saying that all pregnant illegals, birth and care of the baby also would be
taken care of, courtesy of the tax payers. My last child cost me $15,000, but it was my choice and my responsibility. We paid every penny ourselves. (didn't think we'd ever get it paid off!)
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:14 PM
 
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We need this in other states.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:18 PM
 
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i agree with this bill partly. i think its good to target employers, and for police to focus their efforts on more serious crime (although i dont think immigration is the right direction. it would be better if they targeted violent crimes almost exclusively). i dont think cutting off public assistance is going to do any good. it will cause domestic migration, and save the taxpayers a few bucks, at the expense of a human being's basic life necessities. identity theft would be greatly reduced if we allowed them free, fast legal immigration. this bill will do little to prevent id theft, due to its ease and volume.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:25 PM
 
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We don't want fast legal immigration. We want them gone.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:30 PM
 
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We don't want fast legal immigration. We want them gone.
you and people in the fortunate positions already.

humanitarians would side with me.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:37 PM
 
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Humanitarians will be the end of this country. We're under seige from foreign invaders and you would side with them.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:42 PM
 
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Humanitarians will be the end of this country. We're under seige from foreign invaders and you would side with them.
we can only achieve peace when people are peaceful in the face of adversity. whatever happens (and no one can predict the future), i can be happy knowing i stand for tolerance and understanding, personally. and thats what counts.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:45 PM
 
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At what cost? The destruction of America? The end of everything our ancestors have created, all to be replaced by a foreign culture?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:28 AM
 
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At what cost? The destruction of America? The end of everything our ancestors have created, all to be replaced by a foreign culture?
we dont know what that cost will be. we shouldnt sacrifice our personal morality based on a potential, either.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:34 AM
 
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At what cost? The destruction of America? The end of everything our ancestors have created, all to be replaced by a foreign culture?
This is hyperbole. Really, think about it. If you think illegal immigration is going to destory the US just because they are a "foreign culture", you need to get real. At one time hot dogs and pizza were "foreign culture".

Illegal immigration is bad but I wouldn't put the "destruction of our culture" high up on the list of problems it creates. Mostly I'd say the problems are economic and environmental, not cultural. And even if illegal immigration is bad, they are just human beings for the most part breaking a law that says you have to apply for a visa to be here, they are just looking for a better life and trying to take the easy way out (the hard way involve, in most cases, protests and armed insurrection against Latin American countries). It's not like they ate babies or drown kittens. People who get so outraged over illegal immigration to the point they demonize illegals as human being, should check themselves out because I doubt they go around demonizing speeders or jaywalkers.
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