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Old 05-17-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The people of California, through elected Republican and Democratic Governors, and through elected Republican and Democratic legislators ... have provided these benefits you complain about illegals receiving. And while I probably agree with you almosts 100% on the expenditures issues regarding California ... the voters have decided to be generous. Your issue/complaint is with the people of California.
Well I don't live in CA and didn't vote for welfare benefits for illegals.
But CA did and now they want to turn them all over to Fed to take care of because they are running short on money ?

"Share the debt" huh ?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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The people of California, through elected Republican and Democratic Governors, and through elected Republican and Democratic legislators ... have provided these benefits you complain about illegals receiving (but, yes, also too ... because of some federal programs administered by the state because of Congressional mandate). And while I probably agree with you almosts 100% on the expenditures issues regarding California ... the voters have decided to be generous. Your issue/complaint is with the people of California.
That's because whites are now the minority in Calif. and we are overhwhelmed with illegals and their ethnocentric supporters here. Also a very liberal state. Thanks to that we are on the brink of bankruptcy.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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That's because whites are now the minority in Calif. and we are overhwhelmed with illegals and their ethnocentric supporters here. Also a very liberal state. Thanks to that we are on the brink of bankruptcy.
"White (not Hispanic or Latino)" are still the largest group in California, and are not expected to be eclipsed by Hispanics until next year (2014). There were 14 million Hispanics in California in 2010. How many of those are you suggesting to be "illegal"?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:36 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes, I've already made the same suggestion. But the focus of the discussion was it was "Leftist fanatics" who say "Our immigration laws need reform." Now we have the Speaker of the House agreeing. Therefore, he must have woken-up today a different man ... a "Leftist fanatic."
Again, Boehners version is much different then the Senates.
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After calling comprehensive immigration reform "long overdue" in an interview with ABC News' "World News," the speaker told reporters on Friday he was not talking about a "3,000-page bill." "What I'm talking about is a common-sense, step-by-step approach to secure our borders, allow us to enforce the laws and fix a broken immigration system."
Boehners wording of "fix a broken immigration system" is about legal immigrants and wait times. Boehners remarks for illegal immigrants
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Boehner had earlier said that Congress would not consider comprehensive immigration reform under any circumstances. He voted against the DREAM Act in 2010.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: California
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"White (not Hispanic or Latino)" are still the largest group in California, and are not expected to be eclipsed by Hispanics until next year (2014). There were 14 million Hispanics in California in 2010. How many of those are you suggesting to be "illegal"?
Whites are 14.9M while others (minorities) are 22M, which is what oldglory is referring to, he said nothing about Hispanics. California Demographics - Get Current Census Data for California

Almost 3M million illegals in the state., which would still make "whites" the minority when compared to all "other ethnicities"

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Old 05-17-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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Whites are 14.9M while others (minorities) are 22M, which is what oldglory is referring to, he said nothing about Hispanics. California Demographics - Get Current Census Data for California

Almost 3M million illegals in the state., which would still make "whites" the minority when compared to all "other ethnicities"
Exactly!
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Whites are 14.9M while others (minorities) are 22M, which is what oldglory is referring to, he said nothing about Hispanics. California Demographics - Get Current Census Data for California

Almost 3M million illegals in the state., which would still make "whites" the minority when compared to all "other ethnicities"
You are referring to a "majority-minority" status over non-Hispanic whites in California, which was gained in 1999 (not "now", as "Oldglory" had said). There is nothing incorrect in my response. Non-Hispanic whites are still the largest group in California.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: California
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You are referring to a "majority-minority" status over non-Hispanic whites in California, which was gained in 1999 (not "now", as "Oldglory" had said). There is nothing incorrect in my response. Non-Hispanic whites are still the largest group in California.
You brought in the "Hispanics" which is what I was pointing out. Yes, "Whites" are still the largest group, however when compared to minorities they are not. And, YES, now whites are the minority. Now is not defined by how you interpret it, it has more than 1 definition.

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:20 AM
 
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Excuse me, TEA PARTY senator Marco Rubio said immigration needs reform. Your own boy said that, not us, well maybe we did too, but the tea party senator has said that also.
Rubio has to turn in his tea party card, as he is nothing but a hypocrite. We have laws that need to be enforced, and that is all that needs to happen. (although a border fence would create a lot of jobs for citizens).

I see eubio is trying to sell his little agenda by outsmarting the low information voter, same as the liberals are doing on their side.

so I guess the argument is now that obama supports the liberal agenda of cheap labor for the corporations?

can this country get any crazier?

of course, in case you doubt that they are all playing for the same team consider McCain's lauding of Hillary Clinton, even as soldiers were dying, the bipartisan bills from schumer and graham, or some of the harshest obama criticism actually coming from the left, not the right now, like this:
http://www.blackagendareport.com/con...minal%E2%80%9D
drop bombs.”

In an interview with the Guardian published on Sunday, renowned professor and prolific critic of the "military-industrial-complex" and rampant "plutocracy" in the U.S. and around the world, Dr. Cornel West explained his views on the state of America today and his fall from grace, by design, with President Barack Obama: "He's just too tied to Wall Street. And at this point he is a war criminal.

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Old 05-18-2013, 05:59 AM
 
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Rubio is not my boy nor will he ever be.
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