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The last time the liberals (in both parties) tried this, they got a roaring "NO!" from the American people. So many called and wrote to their Congressmen that they had to drop their attempt to gin up a "reform" bill that would have eventually granted amnesty to the 15-million-plus illegal aliens who have crossed our borders against our current laws.
Apparently the liberals didn't take the hint. They are trying it again. Various leftists (in both parties) have announced that they will try to put together yet another "immigration reform" bill... as though there were something wrong with our present laws.
None of these people have ever pinpointed what it is they don't like about our present laws. Our laws allow:
* It's illegal for foreigners to come into the country without a visa.
* It's illegal for them to stay in the country longer than specified on their visa or resident-alien card.
* Foreigners who do any of the above, are to be deported unless unusual circumstances (political asylum, etc.) can be established.
* It's illegal for foreigners in this country to get paying jobs unless their immigration papers permit it.
* Foreigners can come here to work for a specified period if the employer can show that no domestic workers can or will take the job ("Guest Worker Program").
* Foreign spouses and/or immediate family members of American citizens can come into the country.
* Several other categories of immigration exist, to let foreigners immigrate.
* Congress decided many decades ago, that immigration into the U.S. must be limited, so that assimilation can take place and the immigrants can learn American ways, language etc.; and so that communities won't simply be overwhelmed and transformed into foreign colonies of the country the immigrants came from.
What about thse present rules, do the liberals (in both parties) not like? Why do they keep insisting these rules need some kind of "reform"?
The problem has been, of course, not the rules. It's been the enforcement of the rules. The Fed govt has been flatly failing in their Constitutional duty to enforce these rules. One result of this, is that literally millions of foreigners ("aliens") have entered the country illegally, with 15 million (or more) remaining to this day. They take jobs Americans need, work "off the books" without paying taxes, overload schools with their children till the schools can no longer provide decent education, overwhelm hospital emergency rooms until the hospitals can no longer provide good emergency treatment to those who need it, even to the point where the hospitals must close due to finanical insolvency; they bring in diseases that had formerly been eradicated in the U.S., etc. etc.
But why do the liberals keep jumping to the conclusion that it's "the Rules" that need changing, rather than the enforcement of those rules?
There is the additional problem of the huge numbers of illegal aliens within our borders. But if our present laws are enforced (for a change), then deporting the ones who came to the attention of law enforcement, would finally have an effect, as they won't be able to just turn around and walk back into the U.S.
Enforcing our present laws will take some resources, but far fewer than are presently being expended on various crackpot schemes. Four areas have to be worked on and fulfilled:
1.) Build a GOOD fence or wall along the entire border. Other countries have done this, with good results. No such wall is perfectly impenetrable. but a good one will reduce those who get through, to a small trickle instead of the present flood, and free up ICE personnel to concentrate on the relative few who do get through.
2.) Patrol the border adequately. This is necessary to keep people from cutting through etc. The longer time they need to cut through, must be denied to them. This will require hiring a LOT more border patrol personnel and providing support for them.
3.) Provide Federal personnel to work with state and local police, to quickly deport illegal aliens who come to the attention of the police in their normal duties (giving traffic tickets, answering calls for domestic violence, burglary, etc.)
4.) Provide criminal penalties for companies who knowingly hire illegal aliens, for hiring mangers, personnel managers, and even CEOs.
Some of these things are starting to be done. But "starting" isn't nearly enough. All four must be done and done WELL. If any one of them is not, then the whole thing will break down. But doing all four, is not extraordinarily difficult, and CAN be done. And the Federal government is Constitutionally REQUIRED to do them.
No "reform" of our present laws is needed.
In fact, the last time it was tried, it quickly became clear that the liberals (in both parties) were merely playing games, trying to buy the votes of the voting friends of the illegal aliens by offering them amnesty in various disguises (most often referred to as a "path to citizenship"), as though they didn't already have such a path open to them within the necessary restrictions defined by Congress.
Next time you hear about "immigration reform", keep in mind that no reform is needed... in fact, the next set of rules is no more likely to be obeyed by our politicians than the present ones are. It is far more likely that duplicitous politicians are trying once again, to buy more votes at the expense of our already-overrun communities, hospital, and schools.
Immigration, legal or not, provides the low cost labor demanded by our corporate state. Conservative or liberal has nothing to do with it.
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To the Victor's Go the Spoils. The winning party gets to set the agenda. I thought they would have taught that in civics class.
We are 5 years into his presidency and you're still scrathing your head?
I remember when folk were angry with Ronald Reagan's policies...I said then, why get mad, this is what he campained on.
So the same has to be said now.
No, because we don't live under a dictatorship. Regardless of which party is in the White House congress still makes the rules collectively and that means both parties get to vote on the isssues.
There is very little so-called reform in this proposed new law. It is mostly about giving illegals in our country a pass on our immigration laws. That isn't reform because that would not be a part of any policy in our immigration laws for the future.
Excuse me, TEA PARTY senator Marco Rubio said immigration needs reform. Your own boy said that, not us, well maybe we did too, but the tea party senator has said that also.
Excuse me, TEA PARTY senator Marco Rubio said immigration needs reform. Your own boy said that, not us, well maybe we did too, but the tea party senator has said that also.
He's not my boy as I have no use for him nor do I agree with him on this.
To the Victor's Go the Spoils. The winning party gets to set the agenda. I thought they would have taught that in civics class.
We are 5 years into his presidency and you're still scrathing your head?
I remember when folk were angry with Ronald Reagan's policies...I said then, why get mad, this is what he campained on.
So the same has to be said now.
I can't see how you are so accepting of things like this.
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