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Old 05-10-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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That 6 Trillion figure sounds low if all the illegals are given legal status.

 
Old 05-10-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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1. I don't think persons in the country illegally should be provided any government benefits. Dry-up the benefits and dry-up the job opportunities provided by employers and most of the illegals will go back to whichever country they originated.

2. The problems cited in Los Angeles are almost entirely due to California state law, and court decisions in California. It's a 'states rights' issue. California has chosen to make these benefits available and can, if it wants, probably take them away.

3. The LA Country Supervisor has, for at least a decade, repeatedly issued the same sort of statement. He's a man who has exhibited signs of prejudice .. including ethnic/racial prejudice.

4. If persons now illegally in the country were inventoried/registered and given some sort of temporary status to remain in the country and work they would come out of the shadows and many if not most would, as would their families, become eligible for employer-sponsored health care insurance which would eliminate a heck of a lot of the need for them to seek government assistance (be that assistance food stamps or free health care).

5. The level of government support cited in the linked article relates to children, if I've read it correctly. Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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1. I don't think persons in the country illegally should be provided any government benefits. Dry-up the benefits and dry-up the job opportunities provided by employers and most of the illegals will go back to whichever country they originated.

2. The problems cited in Los Angeles are almost entirely due to California state law, and court decisions in California. It's a 'states rights' issue. California has chosen to make these benefits available and can, if it wants, probably take them away.

3. The LA Country Supervisor has, for at least a decade, repeatedly issued the same sort of statement. He's a man who has exhibited signs of prejudice .. including ethnic/racial prejudice.

4. If persons now illegally in the country were inventoried/registered and given some sort of temporary status to remain in the country and work they would come out of the shadows and many if not most would, as would their families, become eligible for employer-sponsored health care insurance which would eliminate a heck of a lot of the need for them to seek government assistance (be that assistance food stamps or free health care).

5. The level of government support cited in the linked article relates to children, if I've read it correctly. Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
If they are being used they can be the object of discussion.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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1. I don't think persons in the country illegally should be provided any government benefits. Dry-up the benefits and dry-up the job opportunities provided by employers and most of the illegals will go back to whichever country they originated.

2. The problems cited in Los Angeles are almost entirely due to California state law, and court decisions in California. It's a 'states rights' issue. California has chosen to make these benefits available and can, if it wants, probably take them away.

3. The LA Country Supervisor has, for at least a decade, repeatedly issued the same sort of statement. He's a man who has exhibited signs of prejudice .. including ethnic/racial prejudice.

4. If persons now illegally in the country were inventoried/registered and given some sort of temporary status to remain in the country and work they would come out of the shadows and many if not most would, as would their families, become eligible for employer-sponsored health care insurance which would eliminate a heck of a lot of the need for them to seek government assistance (be that assistance food stamps or free health care).

5. The level of government support cited in the linked article relates to children, if I've read it correctly. Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
3. Prove it.

4. How does that free up jobs for Amercans?

5. Decent people don't jump another country's borders expecting that country to provide for their kids on the backs of their taxpayers either. Expecting the whole family to go back to their homelands together isn't attacking innocent childen. It is about not rewarding their parents for having violated our immigration laws.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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If they are being used they can be the object of discussion.
Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
Who's attacking children? I haven't seen anyone attacking them.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...3. The LA Country Supervisor has, for at least a decade, repeatedly issued the same sort of statement. He's a man who has exhibited signs of prejudice .. including ethnic/racial prejudice...
And here I thought I was the only one that noticed that...
 
Old 05-10-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
If a child is stealing bread for his mother its not decent to say anything?
 
Old 05-10-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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Decent people don't attack children who are innocents in this debate.
Decent people don't violate a neighboring country's laws and use innocent children as a means of support.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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If a child is stealing bread for his mother its not decent to say anything?
Since you're suggesting children are stealing bread for their mothers, how about sharing your source for those charges?
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