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Old 05-13-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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Very interesting article by CNN contributer David Frum

"Controversial immigration report may be right"

So, math is still math and it doesn't matter, who presented it. Immigration Reform at the end will cost American taxpayers trillions of dollars and here is why:

Opinion: Controversial immigration report may be right - CNN.com
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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I agree.

They didn't like the message so they decided to attack the messenger.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I agree.

They didn't like the message so they decided to attack the messenger.
Well, the "messenger" did the math...

I'm surprised that Harvard (well, in many regards it isn't surprising, as George Borjas was Richwine's [sic] "Dissertation Advisor", the chairperson whom accepted it, and sourced within it) allowed this as a PhD dissertation, because Richwine makes the premise for needing immigrants with high I.Q.'s, but resolves it as "skills" at the end. "Skills" do not necessarily equate to having high I.Q.'s. It may not equate to monetary success, social skills, or being less of a burden to society.

In all reality, it appears that George Borjas was just trying to create the academic credentials of a like-minded immigration restrictionist...
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Immigration has to be restricted. It is common sense. We can't allow every foreigner in here that wants to come here. We do not have the jobs and resources to sustain them and we have to keep population growth in mind also. These are the very reasons that we have annual quotas. Illegal immigration and legalizing those who have broken our immigration laws negates that sane policy.

The findings of Heritage may or may not be completely accurate but legaliziing millions of illegals while millions of Americans are out of work makes no sense at all. They are mostly the undeducated and poor. They will be a net burden to our country regardless in many different ways. They already are without legalization.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Well, the "messenger" did the math...

I'm surprised that Harvard (well, in many regards it isn't surprising, as George Borjas was Richwine's [sic] "Dissertation Advisor", the chairperson whom accepted it, and sourced within it) allowed this as a PhD dissertation, because Richwine makes the premise for needing immigrants with high I.Q.'s, but resolves it as "skills" at the end. "Skills" do not necessarily equate to having high I.Q.'s. It may not equate to monetary success, social skills, or being less of a burden to society.

In all reality, it appears that George Borjas was just trying to create the academic credentials of a like-minded immigration restrictionist...


Or he was relating absolute facts and telling the absolute truth. Two things we all know you cannot stand when it comes to your precious illegals.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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Well, the "messenger" did the math...

I'm surprised that Harvard (well, in many regards it isn't surprising, as George Borjas was Richwine's [sic] "Dissertation Advisor", the chairperson whom accepted it, and sourced within it) allowed this as a PhD dissertation, because Richwine makes the premise for needing immigrants with high I.Q.'s, but resolves it as "skills" at the end. "Skills" do not necessarily equate to having high I.Q.'s. It may not equate to monetary success, social skills, or being less of a burden to society.

In all reality, it appears that George Borjas was just trying to create the academic credentials of a like-minded immigration restrictionist...
why isn't anyone else doing the math?

I am sure those numbers are conservative.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Awesome article. If only more people were listening!
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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Don't care for Frum usually. He is solid on immigration issues though.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Very interesting article by CNN contributer David Frum

"Controversial immigration report may be right"

So, math is still math and it doesn't matter, who presented it. Immigration Reform at the end will cost American taxpayers trillions of dollars and here is why:

Opinion: Controversial immigration report may be right - CNN.com
Understanding that Frum is pretty conservative himself, within a couple steps to be linked to The Heritage Foundation (and some present company) himself...
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Don't care for Frum usually. He is solid on immigration issues though.
Canadian immigrant, which can have a predilection for only Canadian-resembling immigrants themselves...
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