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Old 05-17-2013, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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They aren't in denial. They are fully aware of the cost and harm of illegal immigration and supporting it for the only reason of getting their votes.

It's ironic that people at the low end of income level will be the ones getting royally screwed yet they still support this farce. Everybody else (myself included), the 1% particularly, are laughing so hard that our tears are rushing out.

No wonder they are at the low end to begin with.


why do they support these morons? don't they know they are getting screwed?
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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why do they support these morons? don't they know they are getting screwed?
As long as unemployment handouts are extended and disability is easy enough to get on, sadly there are too many Americans who are content with having no jobs. Cut off the government handouts and they would wake up and decide there should be some job protection for the citizens of this country.

All other countries limit immigration and one big reason is so that their own people have jobs. The irony is that even a country like Mexico limits immigration so it's citizens have job.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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As long as unemployment handouts are extended and disability is easy enough to get on, sadly there are too many Americans who are content with having no jobs. Cut off the government handouts and they would wake up and decide there should be some job protection for the citizens of this country.

All other countries limit immigration and one big reason is so that their own people have jobs. The irony is that even a country like Mexico limits immigration so it's citizens have job.
that is so sad and funny I wish it was not true...
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...The irony is that even a country like Mexico limits immigration so it's citizens have job.
The irony has been that Mexico has experienced worker shortages, and has had to open up employment to those on their southern border. Construction and infrastructure workers are in high demand, and they are using methods learned in the United States. A boom in the economy has started for Mexico, and may be the best way to keep potential illegal aliens there.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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The irony has been that Mexico has experienced worker shortages, and has had to open up employment to those on their southern border. Construction and infrastructure workers are in high demand, and they are using methods learned in the United States. A boom in the economy has started for Mexico, and may be the best way to keep potential illegal aliens there.

that and a border fence....
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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that and a border fence....
And it will end up just being a relic...

For years there has been a potential in Mexico for the United States to do a shift away from Chinese products, in what would be a win-win for both neighboring countries...

Let's build that...
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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The irony has been that Mexico has experienced worker shortages, and has had to open up employment to those on their southern border. Construction and infrastructure workers are in high demand, and they are using methods learned in the United States. A boom in the economy has started for Mexico, and may be the best way to keep potential illegal aliens there.
But then why is Mexico so adamant that we never return a single one of it's own citizens? You'd think if Mexico has a labor shortage, it wouldn't be insisting on the USA ending all our immigration laws and encouraging many more millions to flee Mexico.

Mexico's economic progress had more to do with dumping it's most impoverished and illiterate classes into the USA while it kept those who stay in school and limit family size to what they can afford.

Vicente Fox was working on Plan Pueblo Panama at the same time he was writing comic books to instruct his own people on how to get illegally into the USA -- the elites of Mexico want their cheaper labor also which they can get from south of their own borders.

Mexico does not allow unlimited numbers of impoverished people over it's borders and it does not entice the very poor to come by offering social safety net government handouts to them.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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But then why is Mexico so adamant that we never return a single one of it's own citizens? You'd think if Mexico has a labor shortage, it wouldn't be insisting on the USA ending all our immigration laws and encouraging many more millions to flee Mexico.

Mexico's economic progress had more to do with dumping it's most impoverished and illiterate classes into the USA while it kept those who stay in school and limit family size to what they can afford.

Vicente Fox was working on Plan Pueblo Panama at the same time he was writing comic books to instruct his own people on how to get illegally into the USA -- the elites of Mexico want their cheaper labor also which they can get from south of their own borders.

Mexico does not allow unlimited numbers of impoverished people over it's borders and it does not entice the very poor to come by offering social safety net government handouts to them.
Sure, you're going to say the same thing every time, when the reality is much different. Mexico has created programs for returning ex-pats, and doesn't protest their return. But The Lie is hard for you to leave behind here, you think it provides you some status for telling your stories.

The last time we crossed, they were even taking groups of American heavy equipment operators over the border, Mexico is on a building boom right now. It's a very different Mexico from the way you represent it. All we have to do is figure out your reasons for doing so.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yet apprehensions at border crossings are up this year so far by 13% and it's not due to more agents either.
Go figure.
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Some have their own agenda.
Yes, because anyone paying any attention would notice that, very often, the same regulars on this forum, including the OP, are making anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-liberal-anything threads and posts all over the rest of the politics forum. Yet the rest of us are supposed to believe that this is really about upholding the law or protecting national sovereignty. The agenda is pretty clear, and it's not pretty.
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