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Old 06-01-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Immigration cases make up 40% of federal prosecutions, study says - latimes.com

These repeat criminals should be branded/microchipped and fingerprinted before serving time on a chain gang.

Just reading the stories of these REPEAT LOSERS is sickening. What a waste of taxpayer funds. What they should do is identify their other Illegal relatives and deport their whole families back with them.
As long as enforcement of our law remains so very very lax, and the rewards are so great, illegals will of course decide it's worth breaking our laws. Once a few yards inside the border, the chances of being cause are next to nothing.

The border isn't the least secure, it's a revolving door, illegals routinely go home to visit friends and family and head on back to the USA side.

Every now and then you hear of some poor train-jumper that fell onto the tracks and got cut in half over on the Mexican side -- but other than that, there's not much stopping them.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I just do not understand why we are fighting any wars to protect our Country while we want to give it away. It makes no sense.

Many of us have worked very hard for what we have. We paid into Social Security and all the government programs. There used to be a time (not anymore) that we worried about our own – we even talked about our homeless and poor, working, Americans. Now; everybody just wants a piece of the action – whether they followed the laws or did not.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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The USA created it's own problem here. Restrictive immigration policies that are biased against Latinos and East Asians + porous borders and ports + insufficient manpower for enforcement + life is better here than where they are = a massive influx of illegal immigrants.

Rather than trying to stop the flood in its tracks, we should be trying to control the flood. If we were, then we could actually focus on tossing the undesirables out.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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The USA created it's own problem here. Restrictive immigration policies that are biased against Latinos and East Asians + porous borders and ports + insufficient manpower for enforcement + life is better here than where they are = a massive influx of illegal immigrants.

Rather than trying to stop the flood in its tracks, we should be trying to control the flood. If we were, then we could actually focus on tossing the undesirables out.
Uh; this is 2013, NOT 1964. If anything; word is that it's tough for "anglo white" people like the English, Irish, Germans, Italians and so on to come here legally.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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Restrictive immigration biased against Latinos and Asians? Are you kidding? Latinos hold the highest numbers of legal immigrants into our country and Asians are second. You were saying?

Top 10 legal and illegal immigrant nationalities in the U.S. - OhMyGov News

Our government not only needs to control the flood but they need to deport illegals as our laws dictate rather than giving them amnesty. They shouldn't get a free pass just because they managed to sneak under the fence.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Interesting comment from the same article linked in #25:

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It's difficult to draw any conclusions as this is a tiny piece of the
picture. Currently, about 85% of 21,000 agents guard the Mexican-American
border. The flow of illegal immigrants across this border is actually the lowest
in decades. There aren't many jobs to entice them. About the only jobs available
are in construction, meat-packing and agriculture, jobs that most other people
will no do, no matter how much rhetoric there is.

California has about 12% of the agricultural workers in the country. No other
state comes even close. 90% are Mexican and third are Mexican Indians. They make
it possible for you to eat tomatoes in big Macs at reasonable process.
otherwise, we would be paying $10 dollars for a burger with tomatoes from
Chile.

The Obama administration has actually deported more undocumented immigrants
in 3 years than Bush did in 8. The numbers actually approximate numbers during
the Great Depression years.

One also has to ask what percentage of citizens are of English, Irish,
Scottish, German, Italian descent and others. And after establishing that,
what's the point?

The recent growth in the Mexican population is no longer immigration (legal
or illegal), but through childbearing. Most people of northern European descent
are not having children. They are too wrapped up in consuming and
individualistic success.

And if you are really worried about competition, worry about the Chinese and
other Asian groups. They are quietly outperforming, out-earning, out-buying
every other group in this country.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Americans won't do construction work or work in meat packing plants? That's utter nonsense. Many rural Americans do work in the ag industry. There are unlimited H-2A visas for any shortages of workers in that industry also.

This article just reeks of pro-illegal propaganda. Very little savings if any are passed on to we the consumer by using cheap, illegal labor. It's just nonsense that a tomato would go up much or a burger or anything else that relates to the food industry without cheap, illegal labor. The greedy employers just increase their profits, that's all.

The claim that Obama has deported more illegals than Bush has already been debunked in here many times with links provided to back that up.

Americans are pro-creating at replacement levels. It is immigrants both legal and illegal that are increasing our population growth so much. Since most illegals are Mexicans a good share of our population growth it is due to their anchor babies. I had to laugh at the remark that non-Hispanic Americans are too busy and greedy to give birth when as expensive as it is today to have more than a couple of kids they make sensible procreation decisions. They are too busy covering the welfare needs through their taxes for those who give birth for that specific purpose. Many minorities and illegals know they will get food stamps and other welfare benefits for their kids because they are low wage earners or aren't working at all. So they don't care about responsible family planning.

Competition from immigrants here legally isn't the problem as we only allow in 1 million a year (which should be adjusted according to our needs and our economy, IMO) it is having to compete with illegals for jobs and resources and our taxes going to subsidize them.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The claim that Obama has deported more illegals than Bush has already been debunked in here many times with links provided to back that up.
Well, the quote which seems to have you so upset ... was provided by your "source".
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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Well, the quote which seems to have you so upset ... was provided by your "source".
Upset? Setting you straight is being upset?
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: California
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Interesting comment from the same article linked in #25:
The comment isn't the source of the link, it is but someones opinion in the comment section on the link that doesn't even discuss the article. It holds no merit nor does it give any background to its opinion. To somehow claim it has any merit whatsoever is laughable at best.
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