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Old 06-12-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Why don't we focus on getting high skilled immigrants to the United States?
seems like the bill is more focused on low skill and illegal immigrants....
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The Democrats are also about cheap labor.
We all want more $$$ for what we do. We just don't want to pay people who make or serve what we buy to make $$$ which causes prices to rise. We're hypocrates ... all of us.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Why don't we focus on getting high skilled immigrants to the United States?
seems like the bill is more focused on low skill and illegal immigrants....
No the bill is focused on amnesty. The rest is smoke and mirrors.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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We all want more $$$ for what we do. We just don't want to pay people who make or serve what we buy to make $$$ which causes prices to rise. We're hypocrates ... all of us.
No, the only hypocrites are those who hire them. Most Americans do not do that. From a consumer aspect most Americans do not knowingly buy goods or grace businesses where illegal immigrant labor was involved. I am more than willing to have prices rise in order to bring back the rule of law to our country and open up jobs for Americans. It's actually a myth that illegals bring down prices anyway. Before the housing crash illegals were working construction jobs and homes were sky high and that's because the greedy employers only pocket the profits for themselves.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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Well technically, a number of Cubans enter the country illegally (via makeshift boats & rafts). If they manage to reach the shore, all they have to do is to literally touch dry land, and voila! They're allowed to stay due to the wet foot/dry foot policy. The existence of policy itself doesn't take away the fact that they entered illegally.
Then technically they are not illegal immigrants then. It really is that simple according to our wet foot, dry foot policies. They come as refugees.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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We need to give all of them amnesty....... amnesty with "conditions"....the conditions will really mean punishment .They may think it will be over as soon as they receive amnesty......NOT so!
There will be things they will have to do . Learning english and paying up all of their back taxes are just 2 of them. If thy have used a stolen ID the of course this stealing has to be punished too. We dont like stealing..No free ride here...esay
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We need to give all of them amnesty....... amnesty with "conditions"....the conditions will really mean punishment .They may think it will be over as soon as they receive amnesty......NOT so!
There will be things they will have to do . Learning english and paying up all of their back taxes are just 2 of them. If thy have used a stolen ID the of course this stealing has to be punished too. We dont like stealing..No free ride here...esay
How do we verify the back tax amount?
I am all for punishing any and all crimes.
I also believe that those who have used fraud should be charged just as any citizen would have.
Those whose ID theft and fraud that resulted in damage to a legal citizen's credit or life need to made to pay for the damage they have caused.
Not one should gain citizenship or a path until every legal applicant currently waiting first gain theirs.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The Great Outdoors
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Not one should gain citizenship or a path until every legal applicant currently waiting first gain theirs.
They should never ever get a shot at citizenship ever. Renders the whole thing meaningless.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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We need to give all of them amnesty....... amnesty with "conditions"....the conditions will really mean punishment .They may think it will be over as soon as they receive amnesty......NOT so!
There will be things they will have to do . Learning english and paying up all of their back taxes are just 2 of them. If thy have used a stolen ID the of course this stealing has to be punished too. We dont like stealing..No free ride here...esay
Too bad you didn't see Senator Grassley on TV yesterday explaining why none of these requirements will be met and why. No amnesty or CIR ....no conditions. This legislation isn't in the best interests of our own citizens and they are the only ones who count in my mind.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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How do we verify the back tax amount?
I am all for punishing any and all crimes.
I also believe that those who have used fraud should be charged just as any citizen would have.
Those whose ID theft and fraud that resulted in damage to a legal citizen's credit or life need to made to pay for the damage they have caused.
Not one should gain citizenship or a path until every legal applicant currently waiting first gain theirs.
It will be easy to verify how long they have been in this country. Even with no w-2 form making an estimate of how much money they have had their hands on while here can give a ball park figure of what they owe.Money they have paid in using an illegal identity doesnt count as part of their fine.
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