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Old 11-06-2007, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You really missed it. What makes all of the others so special that they don't have to worry about it if they did break the immigration laws?

My example was the Irish in Woodside, Queens whom have been there forever, will come right out and say they are illegal and American's protect them and embrace their culture.
I am not so sure about them being coddled much anymore------and too, being that Ireland today is quite affluent, methinks that many of the Irish nationals have self deported since the 1990's
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Have you ever been to Mississippi! There's probably three arabs, eight Mexicans, and a thousand asians. I'm implying there's no diversity, because there isn't!
A bit of trivia here:

During the Jim Crow laws in the Old South; Americans of Chinese and Japanese heritage were counted as White in Mississippi, N Carolina, etc.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:24 PM
 
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A bit of trivia here:

During the Jim Crow laws in the Old South; Americans of Chinese and Japanese heritage were counted as White in Mississippi, N Carolina, etc.
In South Africa. "apartheid" recognized 4 classes: (into which, of course, 95% of the population neatly fit)--White, Black, Colored (black/white mix), and Asian (meaning Indians) . But the few who DIDN'T fit, were MADE to fit...and as I recall, the wealthy Japanese visitors (investors, CEO's etc)were "White"...while much poorer Chinese, when they had occasion to be there, became "Asian"
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:47 PM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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If you're from Mississippi, you've never seen an Arab person. LOL!


Did I forget to tell you I am military so I have seen more Arab people in one day then you have in your life! also my family is Native american/Irish american and to top it off my brother is Mexican american, above all we are americans!!
Talk about someone being racist!!!
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:48 PM
 
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I do care about those illegal immigrants from other countries too, I care because I see them all getting away scott free living in safe havens in the inner city and protected under the not-hispanic crowd.

I used to live in NYC I know there are huge pockets of illegal Irish in Woodside, Queens. I remember Americans LOVING them Irish, they would come to local markets and be coddled, local irish pubs would laugh with illegals like nothing. Would a raid ever happen in Woodside? Doubt it, Irish culture is embraced in America.

But Mexicans...Brazilians...Puerto Ricans, Columbians..not so much love shown towards them in America. Even though this side of the world is a majority hispanic countries, America has a real issue getting along with it.

So yes in my eyes Mexicans or Hispanics in general, are special in a way that they are looked at as the enemy, much of the time due to ignorance of hispanic culture and because many hispanics that come here from neighboring countries are not well to do.
Not sure the Irish are a very good analogy. Most of them, even in Ireland, have lost their language and much of their culture. They apparently have "assimilated" here, and that might be a reason they aren't seen as a threat. They basically keep a "low profile", as far as being illegals. I do know I was surprised some years back to hear there is a substantial Irish illegal community in Southern Cal., mostly in the Santa Monica area as I recall.

Recall that a century ago they were HATED in the US. Have you checked out the story of the "San Patricios"? Irish immigrant US Army draftees in the Mexican -American war who were lured over to joining the Mexicans in fighting the US. (1846 or so). They are heroes in Mexican history (there's a big monument to them in Mexico City)--but of course traitors to the US way of thinking.

I live among many many Hispanics and I don't feel they are "disliked" here---at least not by anybody who counts. But of course activists and illegals are going to bring "bad press" onto themselves. Much of the current "dissension" you talk about probably has to do with illegal immigration, and the attitude of disrespect for this country it shows, not a matter of "racism".

Racists will always be around---but we can't blame them for everything...By the way, Mach50, do you find it intetresting that some of the most virulent anti-illegal messages come from people who live in areas with FEW illegals---not always, but quite a few times.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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where did you get this information?
Immigrations Human Cost

FAIR: : Criminal Aliens

New FBI Statistics on Crimes Committed by Illegal Aliens - CA Political News by Stephen Frank (http://capoliticalnews.com/s/spip.php?article25 - broken link)

A number of congressmen requested that the General Accountability Office (GAO) investigate and report information on criminal aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. The resulting GAO report, published in April 2005, revealed that illegal aliens make up 27% of the prison population.

Since illegal aliens are unlikely to be committing white-collar crimes, that figure likely underestimates the amount of violent crime committed by illegal aliens. Using the GAO report, Representative Steve King of Iowa points out that 25 Americans, on average, are killed by illegal aliens every day (about evenly split between motor vehicle accidents and outright murder).

That works out to more than 9,000 deaths per year, or more than 36,000 deaths over the past four years. That's more than ten times the number of Americans killed in Iraq over the past four years!

All you folks out there protesting the Iraq War? Where is your outrage over the invasion in this country that is killing tens of thousands of American citizens every year? Oh wait, I nearly forgot. It's politically incorrect to address the illegal alien invasion in this country but oh so politically chic and correct to protest the war.

This country has been neutered by political correctness.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:41 PM
 
Location: NM
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Mach50thunderdart.......However! The Terrorist themselves applied for and received Visas after they already crashed the planes..so I guess they were legal and therefore posed no problem to your keen illegals are terrorists instinct.

They applied for and recieved visas AFTER they had already crashed the planes?????
How is this possible?
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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They applied for and recieved visas AFTER they had already crashed the planes?????
How is this possible?
Makes sense to me! ......
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:09 PM
 
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This woman just OOZES class.
Yes, but unfortunately it's all "Low"....
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:50 PM
 
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but sometimes, when you least expect it, they might do something 'Mexican'
Yes those Mexicans have an obsession with cooking tacos, enchiladas, burritos. I heard they attack Americans with their lawnmowers and construction tools. They even have the nerve to loiter at Home Depot. Where is ICE when you need them. I best be on my toes, thanks dude!

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