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Old 06-21-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Jail time for executives of corporations would solve the problem, but Republicans, Democrats, and conservatives worship corporations, so it's unlikely to happen.
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as opposed to: You have committed a number of crimes many of which have harmed legal citizens. ID Theft and fraud,driving without insurance or a license,tax fraud and evasion. Crimes that get legal citizens sent to prison. For the obvious trespasses we will reward you by giving you exactly what you want. 7.6% unemployment we will add you to our work force further compounding the problem. We will continue to do what we have done since 1986 pass laws without means or political will to enforce them.
Yeah that is efficient as hell. The model to follow.
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Actually no. We have anywhere from 11-20 MILLION illegals here now.
And that's since the last amnesty which was supposed to end illegal entry with improved border control.

Why do "stupid" twice ?
Let's get a fleet of Greyhound busses and ship them out!

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Old 06-21-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Senate immigration deal would double number of U.S. border agents - Chicago Tribune

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal agents on the U.S.-Mexican border would double to about 40,000 under a deal reached on Thursday in the Democratic-led Senate to draw more Republicans to a landmark immigration bill headed toward anticipated passage.

Some questioned the costs and benefits of up to $50 billion in the extra border security, which also will include high-tech surveillance equipment such as manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, radar and seismic devices.
Read the amendment. It's a joke and the idiots of 8 had their fingers in it... Voters need to get rid of Rubio and quick.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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It won't do it.

We need to militarize the borders and actually protect them.
That's the only way it will work. Look at how other countries actually "PROTECT" their borders.

http://media.npr.org/assets/news/201...afbf7aea71.jpg
I still like my sniper every 500 yards idea. After a couple 1000 heads explode they'll get the idea and illegal immigration "will be a thing of the past".
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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No fence will keep out people who are willing to enter illegally.

E-verify, no amnesty, jail and fine employers. It will need to be a big fine. That million+ fine didn't stop Pappas restaurants or Shipley donuts.

I'll bet half the houses built in Texas in the last 20 years were built by undocumented.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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No fence will keep out people who are willing to enter illegally.

E-verify, no amnesty, jail and fine employers. It will need to be a big fine. That million+ fine didn't stop Pappas restaurants or Shipley donuts.

I'll bet half the houses built in Texas in the last 20 years were built by undocumented.
A double layered wall (like congress approved but didn't fund) in the most porous areas will certainly cut illegal immigration back immensely. The 30 some miles of it in the San Diego sector did just that.

I agree that we need to take the other steps that you suggested also along with denying benefits and birthright citizenship to their kids born on our soil.

They aren't undocumented. They are illegal aliens and I know of many tracts of homes built by them here in California and the workmanship was shoddy.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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A double layered wall (like congress approved but didn't fund) in the most porous areas will certainly cut illegal immigration back immensely. The 30 some miles of it in the San Diego sector did just that.

I agree that we need to take the other steps that you suggested also along with denying benefits and birthright citizenship to their kids born on our soil.

They aren't undocumented. They are illegal aliens and I know of many tracts of homes built by them here in California and the workmanship was shoddy.
They built the fence moving east. What happened when the fence stopped. They cross where it's easy. Build a fence, they'll go around it or dig a tunnel.

If I needed work to feed my kids, I'd cross, too.

Let the church who teaches birth control is a sin sell some stuff and start providing jobs in Mexico and Central America.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Pa
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No fence will keep out people who are willing to enter illegally.

E-verify, no amnesty, jail and fine employers. It will need to be a big fine. That million+ fine didn't stop Pappas restaurants or Shipley donuts.

I'll bet half the houses built in Texas in the last 20 years were built by undocumented.
The fence wont stop all. But it will funnel them to other areas. That means more able to predict points of entry. Why watch 1200 miles of border if you can reduce it to 600 miles or less.
I agree hammer the greedy employers and that includes Joe cheapskate trolling the home depot parking lots.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Pa
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They built the fence moving east. What happened when the fence stopped. They cross where it's easy. Build a fence, they'll go around it or dig a tunnel.

If I needed work to feed my kids, I'd cross, too.

Let the church who teaches birth control is a sin sell some stuff and start providing jobs in Mexico and Central America.
Exactly. They cross at fewer points and we can predict where.
Fences can be fitted with sensors that detect tunneling activity.
Here is an Idea. Their problems their kids their issues. Not our problem.
We should be seizing the assets of all illegals caught to help offset the cost of their deportation.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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They built the fence moving east. What happened when the fence stopped. They cross where it's easy. Build a fence, they'll go around it or dig a tunnel.

If I needed work to feed my kids, I'd cross, too.

Let the church who teaches birth control is a sin sell some stuff and start providing jobs in Mexico and Central America.
Nope, the premise is that where there is no wall the Border Patrol can focus their efforts there. We were supposed to get 700 miles of the double layered wall but congress didn't fund it after approving it. There are tunnel sensors also that can be used.

They aren't coming here to feed their kids. They can do that at home. It is just that they can make more money here and we offer all kinds of welfare handouts especially if they give birth on our soil. Irregardless, what about Americans needing to feed their kids? Many Americans have been put out of work by illegals and had their taxes go through the roof covering their social costs. What gives these people the right to break laws for their own selfish reasons without any consideration for Americans and their families?
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:13 PM
 
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Why do they have to let the new border agents hang around the border. Let them spread out to all of the larger cities and deal with the law breakers who jumped the border. Just because the mexican is now in North Carolina doesnt mean the border agents dont have UNFINISHED BUSINESS with the violation. If I break a federal law in OHIO it doesnt mean I can go to Florida and the problem will go away does it? Use the same logic with the border jumpers .If not hiring new agents isnt going to really help.
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