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Old 06-28-2013, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wasn't the bill written to provide a step by step approach to citizenship of illegals?

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/forms/immigration.pdf

Media outlets are already reporting that house republicans are saying the bill is a non starter.
House GOP opposes Senate-passed immigration bill

The repubs tried to add a provision to the bill that would require a 90% secured border before citizenship could be granted. Dems rejected it. Why is this unreasonable, considering that the last time this type of bill was passed in 1986, the only part of the bill that never became reality was a secured border?
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Pa
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The repubs tried to add a provision to the bill that would require a 90% secured border before citizenship could be granted. Dems rejected it. Why is this unreasonable, considering that the last time this type of bill was passed in 1986, the only part of the bill that never became reality was a secured border?
it is unreasonable because it would force the dens to enforce our immigration laws.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Depend on what? The house not killing the bill? pffffft.

Send mail to my rep? You gotta be kidding. Do you or anyone else really think sending communications to any rep will sway their opinion or change their minds?

Scary government right now? C'mon, I've been voting for over 40 years, not much has changed in government. It's been scaring me since 1972.

Please folks, no need to tell me about pork in bills either. When was the last time any of our legislators passed any bill without any pork fat in it? This is both sides too, not just one or the other.
No truer words have ever been posted.....
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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It won't pass the house.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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The repubs tried to add a provision to the bill that would require a 90% secured border before citizenship could be granted. Dems rejected it. Why is this unreasonable, considering that the last time this type of bill was passed in 1986, the only part of the bill that never became reality was a secured border?
Think about it. 90% secured? I'm a former member of the US military, and even I think it is not only unreasonable, but impossible too. There is approximately 1,969 miles of border to secure, in rugged terrain.

But, let's not nitpick about provisions and add ons, we both know the bill won't make it.

WOLA's Border Fact Check
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Think about it. 90% secured? I'm a former member of the US military, and even I think it is not only unreasonable, but impossible too. There is approximately 1,969 miles of border to secure, in rugged terrain.

But, let's not nitpick about provisions and add ons, we both know the bill won't make it.

WOLA's Border Fact Check
True enough, however the bill as the Dems intended it is without any teeth. Like the 1986 amnesty it leaves much to be done later with no checks or balances. As I said before it lacks any meaningful reform that would address actual problems in the system
E-verify being one of the few.
Leaving enforcement up to a political appointee is a mistake.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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Goes to show that no Law is respected anymore.....by government itself.
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