Is Oil the reason, we have an illegal problem in the US? (illegals, law)

[Mach50]

I have said this before, but I'll ask it here.

Could Americas obsession for Oil be the reason United States has not enforced the Southern Border with Mexico as some sort of hidden handshake between our governments?

Poor for Oil. Blood For Oil?

Mexico is at #3 in Oil Imports. Ponder.

Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Aug-07 Jul-07 YTD 2007 Aug-06 Jan - August 2006
CANADA 1,950 1,797 1,853 1,862 1,780
SAUDI ARABIA 1,468 1,434 1,427 1,477 1,409
MEXICO 1,381 1,469 1,448 1,667 1,663

Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Aug-07 Jul-07 YTD 2007 Aug-06 Jan - August 2006
CANADA 2,510 2,360 2,426 2,456 2,328
SAUDI ARABIA 1,499 1,436 1,450 1,514 1,452
MEXICO 1,474 1,611 1,579 1,793 1,787

Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries

[NewToCA]

Not a chance in the world, completely irrelevant to the illegal alien issue.

[ProLogic]

You never know..

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

Not a chance in the world, completely irrelevant to the illegal alien issue.

How? Elaborate.

You don't think America might just help those people out for the sure chance of getting all of that Oil?

Side question: You don't think America attacked Iraq for Oil either right?

[jhlcomp]

Good question and you bet we would sleep with the devil to get the oil.

[NewToCA]

Well, having just returned after a week out of the forum, I don't know the exchanges which have taken place on this topic, so I may be retracing some stuff already covered. For that, I apologize in advance.

First off, Mexico has a very limited supply of oil, only enough to last about 10 years at their current pump out rate.

México • Hubbert Peak of Oil Production

Mexico's oil bonanza starts to dry up

The major problem/issue needing to be addressed in conjunction with the Mexican government, is the nasty druglord problem which has evolved over the past 10-12 years, surpassing Columbia as a problem in supplying illegal drugs to US users.

Mexico Surpasses Colombia as Top Supplier of Drugs in U.S.

Mexico and the United States | Just don't call it Plan Mexico | Economist.com

As a result of this terrible druglord problem in Mexico, it has become the most dangerous country in the "free" world for reporters. They are being killed not just for what they report, but also to send a message to other reporters and publishers to keep out of any investigative reporting of the drug issue:

Reporters sans frontières - Mexico


So, to summarize, I don't think that the oil issue has anything to do with illegals, but I think the failure to crack down on lawlessness has caused both countries to not focus on fixing the issue to the degree necessary.

[ProLogic]

But what does drugs have to do with oil?

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

Well, having just returned after a week out of the forum, I don't know the exchanges which have taken place on this topic, so I may be retracing some stuff already covered. For that, I apologize in advance.

First off, Mexico has a very limited supply of oil, only enough to last about 10 years at their current pump out rate.

México • Hubbert Peak of Oil Production


The major problem/issue needing to be addressed in conjunction with the Mexican government, is the nasty druglord problem which has evolved over the past 10-12 years, surpassing Columbia as a problem in supplying illegal drugs to US users.

Mexico Surpasses Colombia as Top Supplier of Drugs in U.S.

Mexico and the United States | Just don't call it Plan Mexico | Economist.com

As a result of this terrible druglord problem in Mexico, it has become the most dangerous country in the "free" world for reporters. They are being killed not just for what they report, but also to send a message to other reporters and publishers to keep out of any investigative reporting of the drug issue:

Reporters sans frontières - Mexico

Yes I am aware of Mexico's Oil Reserve of 10 years, but I am talking up to this point, US could have relaxed the border law to keep their Oil pumping in.

Drugs is another topic, drugs aren't bringing in millions of poor people to work in the fields illegally.

[dynimagelv]

I think the reason is George B the 1's desire for a "NEW WORLD ORDER".....Junior is carryin out daddy's plan....just like he did when he invaded Iraq.....daddy didnt get the job done so he sent junior in to finish it.

[NewToCA]

Not really.

Oil is irrelevant, we could get much more oil over the long term from out good friends to the north, in Canada:

New technology makes it easier to tap Canada's oil reserves - US News and World Report

Drugs might be fairly relevant because it involves a US vulnerability in our discussions with Mexico. The Mexican security officials are overwhelmed by the druglord issue (and the corruption of some of the law enforcement officials). It makes it difficult for them to constructively address some of their structural economic issues, the drug issue tilts their economy a bit. Because the US is the major consumer of the illegal drugs, a joint venture between the two countries needs to be worked out for effective enforcement. This would involve some fund transfers from the US to Mexico to assist with this crackdown, and would be part of a larger issue also involving shipping back illegals, to a more "constructive" economy.

In all, I expect a joint cooperative joint venture between the two countries which addresses eradicating the druglords from controlling much of Mexico's economy, along with the associated intimidation, and returning the illegals to an economy with more constructive employment opportunities.