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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:09 PM
 
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Well, of course I'm hurt---but then, I DID ask for honesty....exactly which part of my idea did you have a problem with, if I may ask?...
the whole thing. you trying to be funny does nothing to truly address the problem and real world solutions.

your viewpoint on illegal immigrants is almost a direct parallel to McCarthyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . funny how history repeats itself and nobody seems to learn.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:11 PM
 
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this just shows the ridiculousness of your viewpoint on crime in society.

you never did answer my question: would you punish a whole neighborhood because a handful of people in it committed rape or murder?
Of course not---how silly. If a neighborhood harbored rapists and murderers, I'd probably reason that, "well, that's their business. Maybe these rapists and murderers are also being "good neighbors". It's not up to ME to judge."

It's a well-known fact that most rapists and murderers will turn themselves in eventually, if society would just get off their backs. Let their consciences work on them, I say....

But remember, rapists and murderers don't hurt the economy. Illegal immigrants DO. Illegals take jobs from Americans---rapists and murderers usually work outside the economy....does this make sense?.....
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:14 PM
 
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Of course not---how silly. If a neighborhood harbored rapists and murderers, I'd probably reason that, "well, that's their business. Maybe these rapists and murderers are also being "good neighbors". It's not up to ME to judge."

It's a well-known fact that most rapists and murderers will turn themselves in eventually, if society would just get off their backs. Let their consciences work on them, I say....
so why punish all immigrants because a handful will be criminals? i think you just conceded, but i doubt you'll admit it.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:15 PM
 
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THERE! What did I tell you ?--somebody DID say this!!!..... A little crime can keep us "on our toes".....Thanks!...
Thats funny, tell us how you do it.....predictable huh?
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:16 PM
 
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so why punish all immigrants because a handful will be criminals? i think you just conceded, but i doubt you'll admit it.
I don't recall anyone advocating punishing immigrants...I though we were talking about illegals, ALL of whom have previously broken the law. Sorry I didn't understand that someone wants to "punish all immigrants"..my mistake..
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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Thats funny, tell us how you do it.....predictable huh?
as predictable as any talking point. at least i was able to show how ridiculous the ideology is... but i guess you selectively ignored that whole part, huh?

i guess i should ask you, personally: would you punish a whole neighborhood because a handful of people in it committed rape or murder?
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:18 PM
 
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Thats funny, tell us how you do it.....predictable huh?
This has happened to me twice---so PREDICTABLE is the response that it actually came only SECONDS after my "first" post....I just didn't think it would be the OP !
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:19 PM
 
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I don't recall anyone advocating punishing immigrants...I though we were talking about illegals, ALL of whom have previously broken the law. Sorry I didn't understand that someone wants to "punish all immigrants"..my mistake..
one of your points against illegal immigration is the increase in the number of criminals (without mentioning the larger increase in general population size). all i did here was show that your point is inapplicable as a rational argument against illegal immigration.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
 
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i guess i should ask you, personally: would you punish a whole neighborhood because a handful of people in it committed rape or murder?
I'd punish a whole neighborhood if EVERYONE in it had committed rape and murder. Or if everyone in it had used illegal fireworks, had committed burglary, or had immigrated illegally.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
 
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as predictable as any talking point. at least i was able to show how ridiculous the ideology is... but i guess you selectively ignored that whole part, huh?

i guess i should ask you, personally: would you punish a whole neighborhood because a handful of people in it committed rape or murder?
Punishment? I will give you this much GHOST, if everbody agreed it might get boring.
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