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Old 07-23-2013, 02:44 AM
 
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They're also furious about any hint that they should learn English or pay any fee. Even though the proposed fees are ridiculously low for the law breakers, much lower than those who immigrate legally must pay, they object to them. They expected complete amnesty, nothing expected from the illegals at all.

Presente - Latinos to Obama, Senate on Immigration: We Voted For Citizenship, Not More Punishment

“We call on President Obama and Congress to propose concrete legislation that leads to the immediate removal of unnecessary barriers to citizenship that are in the Senate legislation: fees, language requirements, unfair employment verification and other obstacles. We demand all 11 to 12 million. No less."
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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They're also furious about any hint that they should learn English or pay any fee. Even though the proposed fees are ridiculously low for the law breakers, much lower than those who immigrate legally must pay, they object to them. They expected complete amnesty, nothing expected from the illegals at all.

Presente - Latinos to Obama, Senate on Immigration: We Voted For Citizenship, Not More Punishment

“We call on President Obama and Congress to propose concrete legislation that leads to the immediate removal of unnecessary barriers to citizenship that are in the Senate legislation: fees, language requirements, unfair employment verification and other obstacles. We demand all 11 to 12 million. No less."
I can demand things too.

I DEMAND that you go back where you came from. You are not wanted here.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:45 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Dream Act for them is really the Nightmare Act for American citizens. I don't care what they want. I want them gone. Deport every one of them and the sooner the better.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I can demand things too.

I DEMAND that you go back where you came from. You are not wanted here.


Not what our government has done and this administration is no exception to that rule.

More like invited them to come, and then they are the ones here illegally, who put demands on us.

Who are the idiots, who are the ignorant.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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They're also furious about any hint that they should learn English or pay any fee. Even though the proposed fees are ridiculously low for the law breakers, much lower than those who immigrate legally must pay, they object to them. They expected complete amnesty, nothing expected from the illegals at all.

Presente - Latinos to Obama, Senate on Immigration: We Voted For Citizenship, Not More Punishment

“We call on President Obama and Congress to propose concrete legislation that leads to the immediate removal of unnecessary barriers to citizenship that are in the Senate legislation: fees, language requirements, unfair employment verification and other obstacles. We demand all 11 to 12 million. No less."
Pfffft! They're delusional!
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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The House Republicans are caving. Quite pathetic.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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From the article:

Equally disconcerting is how the President’s proposed framework on immigration will “stay focused on enfrocement” which will leave millions of immigrants vulnerable to the worst part of existing immigration policy: the failed enforcement and “border security” policies that separate families, terrorize children and generally diminish immigrant life.

"immigrant" life? lol. terrorize childen? lol. Oh what drama queens they are. Oh the horror that we should focus on enforcing our immigration laws. Their sheer arrogance knows no bounds.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Forget the fact most are here illegally. Why in the hell put up with people like this. Who lack respect for the US laws. What in the hell makes this one race more special then the others.

They want they want, all about them, their life, and to hell with what Americans think.

Maybe most of us ought to try and break the laws, enter into Mexico illegally, demands rights and see how americans are treated there.
because most of us 1-respect laws and 2-want to remain alive and free. I can't understand what so many are thinking.

I realize we can't send 20 million or ever how many mil back to their native countries, I realize splitting families is cruel, I realize it isn't the fault of the children they were brought to America illegally, but we also can't say to everyone: ok, we understand your being here and we welcome you with open arms. We truly believe the old saying "I would give you the shirt off my back" and we are giving you just that.

If I were one of the illegals or I have family members that were, I would be more than happy to take any little law that is passed that will help and thank the American people.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Forget the fact most are here illegally...
I guess you are among the third of non-Hispanic Americans that are mistaken about that:

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over 30 percent of non-Hispanics believe a majority (over half) of Hispanics are undocumented. However, the actual figure of undocumented Hispanics in the U.S. is around 18 percent, and only 37 percent of U.S. Hispanics are actually immigrants


Could it be that more Hispanic immigrants are here legally rather than illegally?...

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...Why in the hell put up with people like this. Who lack respect for the US laws. What in the hell makes this one race more special then the others.

They want they want, all about them, their life, and to hell with what Americans think...
That entire diatribe appears to be directed at Hispanics, whom actually aren't a race among themselves...

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...Maybe most of us ought to try and break the laws, enter into Mexico illegally, demands rights and see how americans are treated there.
Praytell how does one enter Mexico "illegally"?...
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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They're also furious about any hint that they should learn English or pay any fee. Even though the proposed fees are ridiculously low for the law breakers, much lower than those who immigrate legally must pay, they object to them. They expected complete amnesty, nothing expected from the illegals at all.

Presente - Latinos to Obama, Senate on Immigration: We Voted For Citizenship, Not More Punishment

“We call on President Obama and Congress to propose concrete legislation that leads to the immediate removal of unnecessary barriers to citizenship that are in the Senate legislation: fees, language requirements, unfair employment verification and other obstacles. We demand all 11 to 12 million. No less."

well, what they expect and what they will get is two different things.

I've been telling 10 years ago to some people who were then illegally ( they are already citizens now) - legalize through the available route, so called "amnesty" is going to be even more expensive - do you think this country won't want to make a dime on millions and millions?

The route is still here - it is called Section 245(i) amnesty

Historical Overview of Immigration Policy | Center for Immigration Studies
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