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Old 07-25-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LostInHouston View Post
By that theory, we should also close the border to foreign travelers, international students, foreign dignitaries/heads of state as a percentage of them all commit crimes as well. Obviously once we do that, our citizens will no longer be allowed to travel abroad at which point we'll be forced to become a completely self-sufficient nation... how very communist of you!
We could start by deporting you and those like you!!!

 
Old 07-25-2013, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So your theory is that because legal citizens commit crimes we should turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants that commit crimes? Doesn't seem quite logical.

We should not turn a blind eye to any crimes but it seems no one took issue with the human rights violations by 7-11's on Long Island including the parent company, where was all the outrage. No one gave a rats rear end.

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Prosecutors say the owners and managers of the stores hired illegal
immigrants from Pakistan forcing them into slave like labor conditions.

"Immigrant workers were routinely forced under threat of job loss of
deportation to work upwards of 100 hours a week to live only in the houses
defendants owned keeping only a small percentage of the money they earned,"
said Loretta Lynch, US Attorney.


"Never noticed any of them that were working complaining. They seemed like
very happy people," said Jimmy Rose, a customer

Suffolk County 7-Eleven owners charged in human smuggling bust | 7online.com
 
Old 07-25-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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because the racist are tired of commiserating ad nauseam without retore. they sneak over to P&OC for fresh blood
Illegal alien is not a race, hispanic is not a race. In fact in most local crime reporting, latinos are classifed as white so your race baiting fails.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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Oh My she was incredibly lucky how many 48 year old women would be seen as attractive to a illegal male who was only 25. I would think a PC NYC 48 year old would be stunned a 25 year old illegal would want to touch and kiss her in the first place.

Surely the story is in error since the PC want amnesty for all the poor illegals. Illegal's have Rights too.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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We should not turn a blind eye to any crimes but it seems no one took issue with the human rights violations by 7-11's on Long Island including the parent company, where was all the outrage. No one gave a rats rear end.




Suffolk County 7-Eleven owners charged in human smuggling bust | 7online.com
So we're supposed to be upset and appalled by the mistreatment of people who came here illegally? Sorry, I'm not riding that crazy train. If you got here by breaking a law, you don't have the moral standing to expect the rest of the laws to apply to you once you get here. Smuggled in or not, the highest expectation should be a speedy return to your country of origin and a mark next to your name on the immigration blacklist.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Having a brain and knowing that an isolated crime or, even, 100 isolated crimes commited by a person of a particular group doesn't represent that group. Most undicumented immigrants aren't voilent criminals, so using cases like these as a reason to keeo them out of the country is really stupid.



One crime committed by one illegal should never happen here.
We know it's not the whole group outside of the illegal entry, document fraud, and identity thefts they commit.



Yes, illegal, not "undocumented".
Call it what it is and quit pretending.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So we're supposed to be upset and appalled by the mistreatment of people who came here illegally? Sorry, I'm not riding that crazy train. If you got here by breaking a law, you don't have the moral standing to expect the rest of the laws to apply to you once you get here. Smuggled in or not, the highest expectation should be a speedy return to your country of origin and a mark next to your name on the immigration blacklist.
Quite a few got here through the slave trade and human trafficking and yes you should be very upset about people being mistreated or held against their will. Speedy return to your country, evidently you are not familiar with human trafficking. Rather ironic that this person was attacked at a 7-11 on Long Island.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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And how many women had been attacked in this country by US citizens or legal citizens compared to the the numbers of women attacked by "illegal immigrants"?

Just find the highest number and expel all the perpetrators of the crime into the sea.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Quite a few got here through the slave trade and human trafficking and yes you should be very upset about people being mistreated or held against their will. Speedy return to your country, evidently you are not familiar with human trafficking. Rather ironic that this person was attacked at a 7-11 on Long Island.
Actually, I've done quite a bit of research on the issue of human trafficking, which is why I'm a proponent of legalizing and regulating prostitution. However, that's for another thread. In this thread is the question of why the illegal alien was in the United States in the first place. If we had secure borders and a government that was willing to toss the illegals out rather than grant them amnesty, there is a very good chance that this crime would not have happened.

Whether or not I'm upset about people being mistreated has no bearing on the question of whether or not they should be in the country. Immigrants have a legal way of gaining entry into this country. It isn't a fast process, nor is it an easy process. It doesn't need to be fast or easy. If someone wants to enter this country, they should do so in the legal manner. Illegal immigrants should be exported back to their birthplace immediately upon discovery.

As for the people who smuggled the workers into the country, I would prefer that they not return to their country of origin. For someone who mistreats other human beings to such an extent, capital punishment should be the only choice of sentence upon conviction. They've already proven their inability to coexist with others, so what's the point of locking them up?
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Here
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All right, I'm going to tie this to the Martin/Zimmerman thing.

We have a thread started about a single incident made relevant nationally for no other reason than the particulars concerning the two principals. It is an otherwise sad and unfortunate crime, but unlike a terrorist attack involving multiple people, is unworthy of widespread media attention.

See, I did it.
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