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11-11-2007, 08:21 PM
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This is such BULL!
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11-11-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess5
You pass a law, then get sued for trying to enforce it!
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I agree 100%, Jess
Kinda makes you wonder why we even bother to vote when we have so many "ambulance chasers" making a joke out of our legal system with ridiculous challenges such as this one!
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11-11-2007, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess5
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this is the america of the 21st century. enforce the law, prepare to be sued.
aint america great?
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11-11-2007, 08:41 PM
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Unbelievable, well not really, but who gave these non citizens rights in the USA?
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11-11-2007, 08:53 PM
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Liberals will tell you it's the 14th Amendment that give illegals their rights.
Amendment 14
Civil rights
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
""""nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"""""
And this is the part they are using. Even tho Section 1 of the 14th Amendment was written only to protect the freed salves and their children. The ACLU uses it all of the time.
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11-11-2007, 08:54 PM
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One has a record and done time in prison, the other has 3 abuse charges.....
Now the hispanic lawyer Lopez cries: "pobrecitos" and offers to represent them for free...
They'll never pay her anyway, but maybe she'll change her opinion when they corner her after their release and "abuse" her sexually? It's called Karma, baby!
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11-11-2007, 09:07 PM
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Because they are illegal aliens the judge should take into consideration their status and deem them career criminals and a high risk to violently re-offend. They should get the maximum possible sentence and then be deported.
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11-11-2007, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texanborn
Liberals will tell you it's the 14th Amendment that give illegals their rights.
Amendment 14
Civil rights
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
""""nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"""""
And this is the part they are using. Even tho Section 1 of the 14th Amendment was written only to protect the freed salves and their children. The ACLU uses it all of the time.
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The part the I highlighted in your quote, show me where that limitation is specified in the 14th Amendment.
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11-11-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NewToCA
The part the I highlighted in your quote, show me where that limitation is specified in the 14th Amendment.
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Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution
December 1, 2005
Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution
by Edward Erler
WebMemo #925
The following is an entry concerning the first section of Amendment 14 of the Constitution as found in The Heritage Guide to the Constitution.
Before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, citizens of the states were automatically considered citizens of the United States. In 1857, the Dred Scott v. Sanford decision had held that no black of African descent (even a freed black) could be a citizen of the United States. The Fourteenth Amendment was thus necessary to overturn Dred Scott and to settle the question of the citizenship of the newly freed slaves. The Fourteenth Amendment made United States citizenship primary and state citizenship derivative. The primacy of federal citizenship made it impossible for states to prevent former slaves from becoming United States citizens by withholding state citizenship. States could no longer prevent any black from United States citizenship or from state citizenship either.
If you read the above you will see what the 14th was for. It was written to protect freed salves and nothing more until a liberal gets a hold of it, just as they like to take "We The People" out of context.
Go back and read what I said about liberals using that part for what they want it to mean. I don't think I said what I said was written in the 14 th.
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11-11-2007, 10:21 PM
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The Amendment can only be enforced as written. Should the limitation have been intended, it needed to be included in the wording of the Fourteenth Amendment. As written, it provides protection and rights to all covered parties.
It has nothing to do with liberals, it has to do with law.
FindLaw: U.S. Constitution: Fourteenth Amendment: Annotations pg. 1 of 40
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