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Obama himself has assured the La Razas that only violent criminals are being deported, he has halted deportation on all others. Of course they were felons or have committed violent crimes.
Errmm, those apprehended at the border are processed and repatriated back to their home countries, why are you on some mistaken notion that the Border Patrol just lets them go? The total of 56,000 Hondurans were felons? Something doesn't quite match up on your statistics (of course without you offering a source).
I am sure that the Mexicans using those border crossing cards but not returning to Mexio when they are supposed to aren't counted in the illegal immigration numbers for Mexico. So this net zero illegal immigration from Mexico is bogus.
They aren't counted as illegals -- they are the "visa overstays" that came over legally but chose to break the laws once here --- or they knew when they purchased their $169 visas (or less depending on when they purchased them) that they intended to use them fraudulently -- but why not? It's cheap, it's easy, and our government isn't even trying to enforce immigration laws, certainly not when it comes to visa overstays which it treats like some special kind of illegal.
They aren't counted as illegals -- they are the "visa overstays" that came over legally but chose to break the laws once here --- or they knew when they purchased their $169 visas (or less depending on when they purchased them) that they intended to use them fraudulently -- but why not? It's cheap, it's easy, and our government isn't even trying to enforce immigration laws, certainly not when it comes to visa overstays which it treats like some special kind of illegal.
I understand that but once they don't leave when they are supposed to essentially they become illegal aliens.
Errmm, those apprehended at the border are processed and repatriated back to their home countries, why are you on some mistaken notion that the Border Patrol just lets them go? The total of 56,000 Hondurans were felons? Something doesn't quite match up on your statistics (of course without you offering a source).
If and only if they are apprehended in the act of coming over the border illegally. Once a couple of feet within the border they aren't apprehended or deported unless they are caught for some violent crime.
Those apprehended right on the border shouldn't be counted as deportations --- yet that's what this administration does. I suspect they also count those who came up to the border and saw the border agent and took off running back into Mexico as deportations.
And that brings up another point --- Mexicans but maybe not all other Central Americans have caught onto the asylum craze. All they have to do is claim they're afraid of some cartel and they are being allowed in -- not deported.
I understand that but once they don't leave when they are supposed to essentially they become illegal aliens.
I know but instead of being called illegal aliens which they obviously are, the new politically correct term is "visa overstays" which is supposed to be somehow different. All it really means they made next to no effort to come here --- just got the $169 (or $149) pass and used it and are now breaking the laws by disrespecting the terms of it.
Pray they start enforcing the border and immigration laws so this kind of thing doesn't keep happening.
The fact that the borders are open and immigration laws are not much enforced is why these people keep on coming over and sometimes train wrecks happen and they don't make it. It's just too easy -- like setting candy out for toddlers and then wondering why some got sick on it.
They were on a mission to break our immigration laws. I find it hard to feel any sympathy for lawbreakers when they risk their own lives to do so and fate deals them a bad hand.
What I'd like to know (and have seen no evidence of) is how they are counting and classifying the illegals as they cross over illegally.
Mexicans have one huge advantage --- the border crossing cards or laser visas which allow them to simply buy the card, it's limited to Mexicans or those who have fake documents showing they are Mexicans, and costs only $169. They can come over any time they wish and simply become visa overstays by never returning home. Nothing at all is being done about the visa overstays. They are supposed to return home -- it's anyone's guess how many actually ever return home...
More statements, absolutely no source to back them up...
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And the trains now come over the border from Mexico. No telling how many human passengers are in those boxcars coming over the railroad tracks every day...
Oh, you are one to think a train or a truck comes over the border and is not checked?...
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...All the reasons that we've been given for very large scale Mexican immigration are still there. $5.00 an hour is more wages than many can make in a whole day in Mexico -- the wage disparity is still there -- just as ever. Food stamps, free schools with free meals -- as available as other. Promises of amnesty as the reward for breaking our laws is playing more a role than ever. All the reasons plus are still there, nothing has changed.
In the fact of all other information saying Mexican immigration is down, and benefits limited to those that are authorized them, you still have all your stories, no sources...
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If and only if they are apprehended in the act of coming over the border illegally. Once a couple of feet within the border they aren't apprehended or deported unless they are caught for some violent crime...
"A couple of feet", I just can't keep up with your fiction that you repeat over and over here, the really sad thing is it is lapped up and repeated here...
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...Those apprehended right on the border shouldn't be counted as deportations --- yet that's what this administration does. I suspect they also count those who came up to the border and saw the border agent and took off running back into Mexico as deportations...
Even to besmirch our fine Border Patrol officers, I just don't quite get what your angle is here...
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...And that brings up another point --- Mexicans but maybe not all other Central Americans have caught onto the asylum craze. All they have to do is claim they're afraid of some cartel and they are being allowed in -- not deported.
So where are all the prayers for the 5 dead? Or is it only non-Hispanic whites and Jews that have that special privilege reserved for them?
Uh please take the "race card" OUT of this convo. Had those illegal aliens NOT been trying to sneak around, maybe they'd be alive now. I'd feel the SAME if it was a bunch of Americans trespassing in Mexico.
Uh please take the "race card" OUT of this convo. Had those illegal aliens NOT been trying to sneak around, maybe they'd be alive now. I'd feel the SAME if it was a bunch of Americans trespassing in Mexico.
Not only that -- it's the open borders crowd that is actually encouraging these people to risk their lives to come here by promising them that once they get here they will be rewarded with US citizenship and all the government benefits that go with it. Not one of the open borders crowd actually promotes having the illegals return home and work to improve conditions in their own countries, they want the unlimited cheap servants pouring over the border.
Border enforcement is the only thing that would stop this deluge of people risking their own lives and even their children's lives.
Not only that -- it's the open borders crowd that is actually encouraging these people to risk their lives to come here by promising them that once they get here they will be rewarded with US citizenship and all the government benefits that go with it. Not one of the open borders crowd actually promotes having the illegals return home and work to improve conditions in their own countries, they want the unlimited cheap servants pouring over the border.
Border enforcement is the only thing that would stop this deluge of people risking their own lives and even their children's lives.
Open border's crowd, bleeding heart liberals and ethnocentrics know not what they are advocating for. I hope they enjoy their future demise.
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