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Old 08-26-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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Lots and lots of illegals still coming --- and the open borders only encourage all this. Some elites in the US now have to have a slight delay in their cheap servants showing up but there's plenty more where these came from.

Mexico migrant train derails; at least 5 dead - El Paso Times

A notorious cargo train known as "the Beast" and carrying at least 250 Central American hitchhiking migrants derailed in a remote region of southern Mexico on Sunday, killing at least five people and injuring 18, authorities said.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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Far more than that were killed in a train derailment recently in Spain...didn't hear the La Raza types crying for them.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Lots and lots of illegals still coming --- and the open borders only encourage all this. Some elites in the US now have to have a slight delay in their cheap servants showing up but there's plenty more where these came from.

Mexico migrant train derails; at least 5 dead - El Paso Times

A notorious cargo train known as "the Beast" and carrying at least 250 Central American hitchhiking migrants derailed in a remote region of southern Mexico on Sunday, killing at least five people and injuring 18, authorities said.
The article also claims that Mexican illegal immigration into our country has dropped but has doubled in the last year for Central Americans and in fact is the highest since 2006. When will this outrageous violation of our borders and immigration laws stop? Next we will be hearing that many of them will be allowed in as refugees due to this train wreck.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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The article also claims that Mexican illegal immigration into our country has dropped but has doubled in the last year for Central Americans and in fact is the highest since 2006. When will this outrageous violation of our borders and immigration laws stop? Next we will be hearing that many of them will be allowed in as refugees due to this train wreck.
No, you are misinterpreting data again. The article reported that over 99,000 "non-Mexican" migrants were apprehended crossing into the United in the last fiscal year (November 1st, 2011 to October 31st, 2012), nearly double the amount in the previous fiscal year (November 1st, 2010 to October 31st, 2011), and the highest number caught in a fiscal year since 2006:

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U.S. border agents caught 99,013 non-Mexican migrants, mostly from Central America, in the fiscal year that ended Oct. 31, nearly double the same period a year earlier and the highest since 2006. The number of migrants actually making the trip is believed to be far higher.


I'm waiting for the dance that 56,000 Hondurans deported in the last two fiscal years were all felons, from the same article:

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The number of Hondurans deported by the U.S. government increased [sic] between to 32,000 last year from 24,000 in 2011
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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I'm waiting for the dance that 56,000 Hondurans deported in the last two fiscal years were all felons, from the same article:
Obama himself has assured the La Razas that only violent criminals are being deported, he has halted deportation on all others. Of course they were felons or have committed violent crimes.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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The article also claims that Mexican illegal immigration into our country has dropped but has doubled in the last year for Central Americans and in fact is the highest since 2006. When will this outrageous violation of our borders and immigration laws stop? Next we will be hearing that many of them will be allowed in as refugees due to this train wreck.
What I'd like to know (and have seen no evidence of) is how they are counting and classifying the illegals as they cross over illegally.

Mexicans have one huge advantage --- the border crossing cards or laser visas which allow them to simply buy the card, it's limited to Mexicans or those who have fake documents showing they are Mexicans, and costs only $169. They can come over any time they wish and simply become visa overstays by never returning home. Nothing at all is being done about the visa overstays. They are supposed to return home -- it's anyone's guess how many actually ever return home.

And the trains now come over the border from Mexico. No telling how many human passengers are in those boxcars coming over the railroad tracks every day.

All the reasons that we've been given for very large scale Mexican immigration are still there. $5.00 an hour is more wages than many can make in a whole day in Mexico -- the wage disparity is still there -- just as ever. Food stamps, free schools with free meals -- as available as other. Promises of amnesty as the reward for breaking our laws is playing more a role than ever. All the reasons plus are still there, nothing has changed.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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So where are all the prayers for the 5 dead? Or is it only non-Hispanic whites and Jews that have that special privilege reserved for them?
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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What I'd like to know (and have seen no evidence of) is how they are counting and classifying the illegals as they cross over illegally.

Mexicans have one huge advantage --- the border crossing cards or laser visas which allow them to simply buy the card, it's limited to Mexicans or those who have fake documents showing they are Mexicans, and costs only $169. They can come over any time they wish and simply become visa overstays by never returning home. Nothing at all is being done about the visa overstays. They are supposed to return home -- it's anyone's guess how many actually ever return home.

And the trains now come over the border from Mexico. No telling how many human passengers are in those boxcars coming over the railroad tracks every day.

All the reasons that we've been given for very large scale Mexican immigration are still there. $5.00 an hour is more wages than many can make in a whole day in Mexico -- the wage disparity is still there -- just as ever. Food stamps, free schools with free meals -- as available as other. Promises of amnesty as the reward for breaking our laws is playing more a role than ever. All the reasons plus are still there, nothing has changed.
I am sure that the Mexicans using those border crossing cards but not returning to Mexio when they are supposed to aren't counted in the illegal immigration numbers for Mexico. So this net zero illegal immigration from Mexico is bogus.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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So where are all the prayers for the 5 dead? Or is it only non-Hispanic whites and Jews that have that special privilege reserved for them?
It's kind of late isn't it for that?

Pray they start enforcing the border and immigration laws so this kind of thing doesn't keep happening.

The fact that the borders are open and immigration laws are not much enforced is why these people keep on coming over and sometimes train wrecks happen and they don't make it. It's just too easy -- like setting candy out for toddlers and then wondering why some got sick on it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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No, you are misinterpreting data again. The article reported that over 99,000 "non-Mexican" migrants were apprehended crossing into the United in the last fiscal year (November 1st, 2011 to October 31st, 2012), nearly double the amount in the previous fiscal year (November 1st, 2010 to October 31st, 2011), and the highest number caught in a fiscal year since 2006:



I'm waiting for the dance that 56,000 Hondurans deported in the last two fiscal years were all felons, from the same article:
I don't know the percentage of violent criminals who were deported. Even 1 is to many, but we know for a fact it is not rare for illegals to be caught who also have convictions from their nation of origin or who have prior convictions in this country.
I find it difficult to find actual FBI statistics. This is odd considering they have statistics on just about everything else. It could be that I just suck at doing a search. I want to post a fair unbiased link. Meaning no conjecture or opinions. A graph that shows what % of criminals are illegal aliens.
I'm trying to be fair. I find many blogs, news paper articles etc. but no actual FBI link.
That said I don't put a lot of faith in Government reporting either, but anted something that could put actual numbers together.
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