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Old 12-16-2007, 08:39 PM
 
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20 years? Don't we have more important problems with Immigration to deal with than deport people who have been here for 20 years and are successful members of their community?
The same could be said of someone who had robbed a bank and then was never caught for 20 or more years and/she became a productive member of society and never got into trouble until they were found out. She we just forgive them of their crime?
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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The same could be said of someone who had robbed a bank and then was never caught for 20 or more years and/she became a productive member of society and never got into trouble until they were found out. She we just forgive them of their crime?
Great point, Ozark-Baby

There are many cases of murders being solved after 20 or more years as well.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Immigrants Pedro and Salvacion Servano have been model U.S. residents since arriving from the Philippines in the 1980s.

Pedro Servano, 54, is a prominent family doctor in an underserved area of central Pennsylvania. His 51-year-old wife runs a grocery store and bakery.

But a change in their marital status during their visa application process more than two decades ago has come back to haunt them, and now they are facing possible deportation back to the Philippines.

FOXNews.com - Couple Fight Deportation After 20+ Years - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Nov17/0,4670,DoctorImmigrationAppeal,00.html - broken link)
This is just another example of our broken immigration system and why fixing it needs to be a priority.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:24 AM
 
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This is just another example of our broken immigration system and why fixing it needs to be a priority.
No, it is not. It is another example of people with low morals who have no regard for our laws.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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This is just another example of our broken immigration system and why fixing it needs to be a priority.
BS...it's not broken. They screwed up, it's completely and 100% their fault. That they are blaming the US government for their mistake is outrageous.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Pa
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BS...it's not broken. They screwed up, it's completely and 100% their fault. That they are blaming the US government for their mistake is outrageous.
Absolutely correct. They didn't just happen to make a minor mistake. It is called out very clearly when you get your visa. Any change in status must be reported. Change in your marrage for example can revoke a visa. These highly educated people were aware of this. I submit that they intentionally failed to report the change of status to avoid deportation.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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No, it is not. It is another example of people with low morals who have no regard for our laws.
Absolutely, Ozark-Baby!

If they feel so comfortable blatantly ignoring our immigration laws . . . AT WHAT OTHER LAWS WILL THEY SNUB THEIR NOSES?
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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But when the law is unjust, it should be broken and changed.

Give me one good reason why two people, both granted visas to enter the United States, should have to wait to get married until after entering the US, simply for fear of screwing up their visa application.

This is unjust government interference in people's lives.

Whether you are pro-or-anti-immigration it behooves you to stand up for common sense and decency in this case. This isn't the 3rd Reich or North Korea. We don't need to follow the rules simply because they are the rules. We need to follow the just rules, and change/break the unjust ones. That's the basis of democracy.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Absolutely correct. They didn't just happen to make a minor mistake. It is called out very clearly when you get your visa. Any change in status must be reported. Change in your marrage for example can revoke a visa. These highly educated people were aware of this. I submit that they intentionally failed to report the change of status to avoid deportation.
The stories I've read indicate that they married while their visa applications were pending. There's no law against that, but their failure to disclose it constitutes visa fraud.

As far as I'm aware once a green card is issued on the basis that they received theirs, you are free to marry anyone you like. It only matters during the application period because marital status changes one's preference category. Married adult children of US citizens have a lower preference category than unmarried adult children of US citizens.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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But when the law is unjust, it should be broken and changed.

Give me one good reason why two people, both granted visas to enter the United States, should have to wait to get married until after entering the US, simply for fear of screwing up their visa application.
It doesn't screw it up. It changes your preference category. Get it right.

This country has clear-cut rules for immigration. Want in? Follow them. Otherwise, go pound sand.
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