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farms are already receiving subsidies. if they are forced to pay higher wages, how do you think they will manage to stay afloat? this is a domino effect. and a perfect example of why we need immigrant labor.
Bull. It's simple. They raise prices so they can offer higher salaries and stay legal. We pay a little more for those items but save BIG on eliminating the huge financial drain of the illegals (healthcare, education, incarceration, welfare, etc.) It's really a no brainer......There is no arguement. Stay legal and look at the overall savings.
Bull. It's simple. They raise prices so they can offer higher salaries and stay legal. We pay a little more for those items but save BIG on eliminating the huge financial drain of the illegals (healthcare, education, incarceration, welfare, etc.) It's really a no brainer......There is no arguement. Stay legal and look at the overall savings.
price increases on common items like produce are going to affect the lower class, which seems to be an ever-increasing majority in america these days.
Yeah, and that number will NEVER diminish thanks to the "open illegal immigration" crowd either!
But as far as produce is concerned, we can just import it. Maybe give some 3rd world countries a chance to have their produce compete in the American market.
price increases on common items like produce are going to affect the lower class, which seems to be an ever-increasing majority in america these days.
First of all, what does this have to do with the minutemen whatsoever? And how does it make them racist? Secondly, the are TONS of studies to the contrary of what illegals cost us, but even if this were true, did you see how the got their numbers? They factored in the amount of profit companies make by using modern day SLAVE LABOR. It still doesn't change the loss of American jobs, it still doesn't change the diseases and criminals brought into our country, and it still doesn't change the millions of people turning this country into Mexico because of their refusal to assimilate. Fixing those things would be worth it even if we lost money by sending them back. And no matter what anyone says, I don't see the $70 BILLION spent on services for illegals to be insignificant.
Yeah, and that number will NEVER diminish thanks to the "open illegal immigration" crowd either!
But as far as produce is concerned, we can just import it. Maybe give some 3rd world countries a chance to have their produce compete in the American market.
already showing evidence that disproves your claim of a HUGE financial drain by immigrants, ill ask you for evidence that attributes our increasing number of lower class to immigration as a whole, or at least the primary part.
First of all, what does this have to do with the minutemen whatsoever? And how does it make them racist?
ignore the title. focus on the content.
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Secondly, the are TONS of studies to the contrary of what illegals cost us,
in terms of GDP? id love to see a couple. links?
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but even if this were true, did you see how the got their numbers? They factored in the amount of profit companies make by using modern day SLAVE LABOR.
theyre still contributions. that number would be even higher if the companies paid them fairly. thanks for making that point.
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It still doesn't change the loss of American jobs,
it never has. this whole idea that theyre stealing jobs is a myth. again, unemployment numbers over the years remaining stagnant proves this.
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it still doesn't change the diseases and criminals brought into our country,
if we gave them a fair opportunity to legally immigrate, we could screen them for health problems. our own stubbornness is creating problems. not to mention the fact people raise a fuss when they finally do go to the hospital. its very counterproductive thinking.
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and it still doesn't change the millions of people turning this country into Mexico because of their refusal to assimilate.
this is a multi-cultural country. there is no true assimilation. we have elements of pretty much every culture. at this point, any addition is a contribution. american culture evolves. it is not concrete.
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Fixing those things would be worth it even if we lost money by sending them back. And no matter what anyone says, I don't see the $70 BILLION spent on services for illegals to be insignificant.
if we reformed our immigration process, we could fix those problems and SAVE money. wouldnt that be ideal?
When illegals "leave", Legal residents / citizens step up and fill the jobs
The Swift meat packing plant situation a couple of years ago is a perfect example - a "raid" happened - illegals rounded up and deported - couple of days later the plant was at full strength - jobs were filled by legal residents and citizens
already showing evidence that disproves your claim of a HUGE financial drain by immigrants, ill ask you for evidence that attributes our increasing number of lower class to immigration as a whole, or at least the primary part.
Sorry, but illegal immigrants are almost always synonymous with poor, uneducated, unskilled.
Otherwise they'd be able to get in on professional visas.
We're "importing" poverty, when we have plenty of our own to deal with:
Importing Poverty
Immigration's Impact on the Size and Growth of the Poor Population in the United States
By Steven A. Camarota
report looks at the composition of persons living in poverty in 1979, 1989, and 1997 in order to evaluate the effect of immigration policy on the size and growth of the poor population (poor and poverty are used synonymously). The findings indicate that despite a strong economy over much of this period, the poverty rate for persons in immigrant-headed households not only has remained high, but actually has increased significantly in the last two decades. As a result, immigration has become a major factor in the size and growth of poverty.....
It's kind of like how New Jersey takes in (or used to, anyway) New York's trash and garbage, when it has plenty of its own trash to dispose of. Good for New York, but gives New Jersey a bad rap.
im asking you why we are seeing an increasing number of lower class citizens? if you are attributing the decline of CITIZEN quality of life to immigration, id like to see your source.
of course an influx of impoverished is going to raise the overall number of impoverished in the country. thats a no-brainer. im asking how their presence is affecting any sort of downward overall trend (citizens), since that is what im addressing.
An immigration reform organization has released a report that challenges the argument of open border proponents who claim there's a shortage of farm workers in the United States.
There will not be any "shortage". Deport those here illegally and lawful residents / citizens of this country will be there to fill those jobs.
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