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Old 02-10-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Remember when Congress voted down the DREAM act a few years ago, that contained various amnesty measures for different groups of illegal aliens? Obama had said at the time, that he might use Executive Orders to start implementing it a piece at a time, anyway.

People who respected the Constitution said that that was even worse than his implementing new things by Executive Order, that had not been voted on by Congress as required by the Constitution. In this case, they pointed out, he would be implementing things that had specifically been DISAPPROVED by Congress.

Well, he did it. Just before the 2012 election, he put in place a piece of the disapproved DREAM Act that granted amnesty to 500,000 illegal aliens. And he gave the Federal Citizenship and Immigration Services just two months to get it going, to get half a million more potential voters their amnesty in time for the election.

That agency normally deals with legal applicants such as foreign-born citizens who have gotten married to American citizens, assigning them green cardfs and visas to enter the U.S. But this new "emergency" program put all such normal business on the back burner, as CIS struggled to process the huge mass of demands from Obama's favored group of illegal aliens. According to the New York Times, 500,000 applications from foreign-born spouses of U.S. citizens etc., were delayed a year or more, despite their being completely legal.

Such behavior from a government is usually restricted to third-world countries, where corruption of normal government processes to satisfy political aims, is demanded by banana-republic dictators to pay off bribes or sway the outcome of elections.

That kind of behavior has now found its way to our shores, and resides comfortably in the highest offices of the land.

Remember the illegal-alien advocates screaming that when the U.S. caught and deported illegal aliens who had had children in this country not subject to deportation, "The U.S. government is splitting up their families, this is horrible!" ?

How long will it take for those advocates to protest this action by Barack Obama, that is resulting in the splitting up of families who violated no laws at all?

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Originally Posted by Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/09/obama-split-500000-american-families-to-legalize-illegals-before-2012-election/#!

President Barack Obama’s 2012 unilateral legalization of 500,000 young illegal immigrants helped him win the 2012 election — at the cost of splitting 500,000 innocent, law-abiding American families for months on end, according to a New York Times article.

The ruthless political calculation was buried deep in the low-key article, which was published on page 20 of the local “New York edition” of the national newspaper.

Obama directed officials to award work-permits to the illegal immigrants, preventing them from preparing green cards for Americans’ foreign-born spouses and children.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us...hers.html?_r=0

Program Benefiting Some Immigrants Extends Visa Wait for Others

By JULIA PRESTON
FEB. 8, 2014

Many thousands of Americans seeking green cards for foreign spouses or other immediate relatives have been separated from them for a year or more because of swelling bureaucratic delays at a federal immigration agency in recent months.

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At loose ends, Mr. Bachert, 48, spent Halloween and Thanksgiving without his wife and children, and he opened his Christmas presents for them himself — on a Skype call so at least they could see what he had gotten for them. “I’m sitting over here on my own, and it’s unbearably hard,” Mr. Bachert said. At the current pace, Mrs. Bachert will probably not travel to the United States before August.

Until recently, an American could obtain a green card for a spouse, child or parent — probably the easiest document in the immigration system — in five months or less. But over the past year, waits for approvals of those resident visas stretched to 15 months, and more than 500,000 applications became stuck in the pipeline, playing havoc with international moves and children’s schools and keeping families apart.


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Old 02-10-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The president isn't able to grant amnesty, so this is a thread fail.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The president isn't able to grant amnesty
This bizarre post reminds me of the Iraqi Information Minister during Gulf War I, proclaiming on Iraqi TV that the American infidel dogs had been driven out of Iraq and not a single one remained. Several American networks did a simultaneous split screen, showing that clown making this pronouncement on the left, while showing American tanks rolling unimpeded down Baghdad's main highways toward the airport on the right.

Hmmm... has anyone ever seen Baghdad Bob and little urbanlife78 in the same room at the same time?

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Old 02-10-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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There have never been limits on green cards for citizens' immediate relatives.
A green card is not amnesty.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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There have never been limits on green cards for citizens' immediate relatives.
A green card is not amnesty.
Didn't even read the NYT article, did we?
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This bizarre post reminds me of the Iraqi Information Minister during Gulf War I, proclaiming on Iraqi TV that the American infidel dogs had been driven out of Iraq and not a single one remained. Several American networks did a simultaneous split screen, showing that clown making this pronouncement on the left, while showing American tanks rolling unimpeded down Baghdad's main highways toward the airport on the right.

Hmmm... has anyone ever seen Baghdad Bob and little urbanlife78 in the same room at the same time?
Well I am sure you are going to continue to think Obama did something he didn't actually do.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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If I recall, the EO mentioned here is the one he signed to not deport illegal aliens, it wasn't to grant amnesty. This can be confusing due to the wording, however, if one looks at it at face value then what is the difference between granting amnesty and willfully not deporting aliens. Obama knows he can not issue an EO granting amnesty, but the can issue an EO telling the INS to look the other way when dealing with illegals. This action breaks standing American law that was passed by congress. So we have now a President, that, willfully ignores American law in order to push out his agenda. Where in the Constitution does it allow the President to sign an EO that defies the current law? If I understand correctly all Presidents make this oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” I guess some of our President must have memory problems.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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The president isn't able to grant amnesty, so this is a thread fail.
Well he did. What do you think DACA was? Millions of illegals --essentially all illegals under age 31 were given amnesty and can now grab up good jobs and college financial aid.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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Remember when a former poster in here tried to claim that dealing with those here illegally does not slow down the processing of the paperwork for those who are doing it legally?
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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The president isn't able to grant amnesty, so this is a thread fail.
That will not stop the Presient
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