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Old 03-08-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, NY
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"Undocumented immigrants lined up by the hundreds when San Francisco launched municipal ID cards in 2009 — providing a preview of what’s in store for New York City’s proposed program.

In San Francisco, where more than 10,000 people now have ID cards, applicants must show up in person, present identification (foreign passports and other documents are accepted) and proof of residency, such as a lease or utility bill.

Applicants pay between $5 and $15, depending on age, and are issued a photo ID on the spot.

San Francisco’s program mimics that of New Haven, Conn. — which in 2007 launched the first municipal ID program in the country and has issued about 15,000 cards.

Advocates said the New York program — announced by Mayor de Blasio on Monday — will provide government-issued ID cards to undocumented immigrants, the homeless and anyone else who has trouble getting official forms of identification.

The IDs are intended to make it easier for undocumented immigrants and other disenfranchised residents to open bank accounts, use the library, get access to health care and go into government buildings and public schools.

Opponents questioned why the city was treading on federal turf.

The Foundation for American Immigration Reform said ID cards “aid and abet illegal immigration” and maybe terrorism.

“New York was the target of the 9/11 terror attacks and [the feds] have said the ability of the hijackers to gain access to government-issued identification was instrumental in carrying out the attacks,” said FAIR spokesman Ira Mehlman, who questioned making ID more readily available." - NY POST

I think this is great news that NYC is taking the same approach has San Francisco on issuing municipal identification cards.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is not at all good news. At best, this is simply offering a reward to those who have chosen to break the law. At worst, it puts our national security at risk, as FAIR points out.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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"Undocumented immigrants lined up by the hundreds when San Francisco launched municipal ID cards in 2009 — providing a preview of what’s in store for New York City’s proposed program.

In San Francisco, where more than 10,000 people now have ID cards, applicants must show up in person, present identification (foreign passports and other documents are accepted) and proof of residency, such as a lease or utility bill.

Applicants pay between $5 and $15, depending on age, and are issued a photo ID on the spot.

San Francisco’s program mimics that of New Haven, Conn. — which in 2007 launched the first municipal ID program in the country and has issued about 15,000 cards.

Advocates said the New York program — announced by Mayor de Blasio on Monday — will provide government-issued ID cards to undocumented immigrants, the homeless and anyone else who has trouble getting official forms of identification.

The IDs are intended to make it easier for undocumented immigrants and other disenfranchised residents to open bank accounts, use the library, get access to health care and go into government buildings and public schools.

Opponents questioned why the city was treading on federal turf.

The Foundation for American Immigration Reform said ID cards “aid and abet illegal immigration” and maybe terrorism.

“New York was the target of the 9/11 terror attacks and [the feds] have said the ability of the hijackers to gain access to government-issued identification was instrumental in carrying out the attacks,” said FAIR spokesman Ira Mehlman, who questioned making ID more readily available." - NY POST

I think this is great news that NYC is taking the same approach has San Francisco on issuing municipal identification cards.
What's the good news? I didn't read any good news for Americans by issuing ID's to illegal foreigners. You're quite the agitator in here, aren't you? Sorry, Yac it just had to be said....my bad.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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This is not at all good news. At best, this is simply offering a reward to those who have chosen to break the law. At worst, it puts our national security at risk, as FAIR points out.
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What's the good news? I didn't read any good news for Americans by issuing ID's to illegal foreigners. You're quite the agitator in here, aren't you? Sorry, Yac it just had to be said....my bad.
Agreed.
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Here
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Race to the bottom continues.
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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Anonymous725 --- You quoted the part about how the 911 terrorists had government ID---and unless you live under a rock, you know darn well what those terrorists were able to do with government ID.

Yet, after reading that---and quoting it---you go on to say what a wonderful idea it is to reward illegal aliens with IDs.

What can I say about your post, except---unbelieveable, simply unbelievable.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Very very bad idea.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:35 PM
 
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BTW, it's not The "foundation" for American Immigration Reform. It is The Federation for American Immigration Reform. I should know---my husband and I are members.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NY
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BTW, it's not The "foundation" for American Immigration Reform. It is The Federation for American Immigration Reform. I should know---my husband and I are members.
Just quoting the NY Post article.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NY
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Anonymous725 --- You quoted the part about how the 911 terrorists had government ID---and unless you live under a rock, you know darn well what those terrorists were able to do with government ID.

Yet, after reading that---and quoting it---you go on to say what a wonderful idea it is to reward illegal aliens with IDs.

What can I say about your post, except---unbelieveable, simply unbelievable.
I worked in a research project. I found how easy it is to get official documentation straight from the federal government it's self. If terrorists wanted to attack our country - trust me - they wouldn't require a god damn city ID card to help them out on their plans.
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