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Old 12-05-2007, 04:39 PM
 
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Why use fear to make your point instead of wisdom?

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Fear?
How about fact and if the facts are scary well then something needs to be done about it!
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Miami (for now)
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I'm a huge fan of Mr. Tancredo, especially after his remarks about Miami being "third world". I'm glad that someone actually had the balls to stand up to the crap that goes on here.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Fear?
How about fact and if the facts are scary well then something needs to be done about it!
That's for sure, but why use the dark coat of fear then? instead of the light of wisdom.

Freedom will only create divisions, while Wisdom could create union, something really needed in times like this.

Love and Light!
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Why use fear to make your point instead of wisdom?

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Why not try that logic on the illegal immigrant gang members - they seem to have the practice of using fear and intimidation to "get 'er done" down to an art form. A crude one at that.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
 
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Why use fear to make your point instead of wisdom?

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With all due respect, I honestly do not think the wisdom approach is going to work with MS-13. These people practice a horrific brand of violence.

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In recent years, MS-13's reputation as a particularly brutal gang was cemented by a series of incidents, several of them in Northern Virginia. In one, a former MS-13 member who had become a police informant was fatally stabbed and her head almost severed. In another, MS-13 members used a machete to cut off several fingers of a rival gang member.
People should be concerned. These are the same type who kidnap, torture, and behead people in Mexico. If that sort of thing starts happening to US citizens........
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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With all due respect, I honestly do not think the wisdom approach is going to work with MS-13. These people practice a horrific brand of violence.



People should be concerned. These are the same type who kidnap, torture, and behead people in Mexico. If that sort of thing starts happening to US citizens........
This is true, those maras, kidnap people "illegal" immigrants mostly, on their ways to the United States, and ask them for a fee to immigrate, they are usually most active in the border with Guatemala, and something needs to be done that's for sure.

But when has been fear a good counselor? fear will only create more fear and attract negative things imho.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:52 PM
 
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This is true, those maras, kidnap people "illegal" immigrants mostly, on their ways to the United States, and ask them for a fee to immigrate, they are usually most active in the border with guatemala, and something needs to be done that's for sure.

But when has been fear a good counselor? fear will only create more fear and attract negative things imho.
Fear is a very good counselor if you are in danger. These gangs, in particular MS-13, pose a threat to the US. There is no getting around this. In this ad he is talking about gangs only. There is nothing positive about gang members from SOB. We already have out own homegrown gangs to deal with, we don't need this.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Fear is a very good counselor if you are in danger. These gangs, in particular MS-13, pose a threat to the US. There is no getting around this. In this ad he is talking about gangs only. There is nothing positive about gang members from SOB. We already have out own homegrown gangs to deal with, we don't need this.
Totally true Andrea, but don't fear evil, face it!! look at him straight in the face!!! if you fear him it means that you keep it in your heart!

Wisdom is power, it is force, it is positive rage, something you unleash on the enemy!!

Make him recoil in fear at the burning look of your wisdom filled eyes

ॐ Jhanna
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Old 12-05-2007, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Wisdom is also acquired by hearing the truth, even if that truth is ugly and something that can be fearful to hear.
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Old 12-05-2007, 05:01 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Wisdom is also acquired by hearing the truth, even if that truth is ugly and something that can be fearful to hear.
100% true, but don't fear it, Face it Face it with the enraged eagle's eyes!!!!

Raise Eagle!!! Wake up Burning Eagle!!!!
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