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I'm still trying to understand why all of you think we should deport illegal aliens. What difference does it really make if they have a green card or not?
I'm still trying to understand why all of you think we should deport illegal aliens. What difference does it really make if they have a green card or not?
Green card holders fall within our quotas for legal immigration. There are good reasons why we have annual quotas and one of them is to protect jobs, resources for our own citizens. Illegal immigration negates those sane policies. I find it hard to believe that your question was a serious one.
Green card holders fall within our quotas for legal immigration. There are good reasons why we have annual quotas and one of them is to protect jobs, resources for our own citizens. Illegal immigration negates those sane policies. I find it hard to believe that your question was a serious one.
My question is indeed a serious one. Clearly illegal immigrants are finding work here, while many legal Americans refuse to work. What other resources do you feel we need to protect?
My question is indeed a serious one. Clearly illegal immigrants are finding work here, while many legal Americans refuse to work. What other resources do you feel we need to protect?
wait a sec, so u want to deport people...even if they are here legally?
My question is indeed a serious one. Clearly illegal immigrants are finding work here, while many legal Americans refuse to work. What other resources do you feel we need to protect?
They are finding work here simply because there are greedy employers that hire them because they work cheaper. Surely you know this. Most Americans aren't refusing to work. Where are you getting this nonsense? For example Americans used to do construction work at a fair wage until millions of illegals flooded our borders willing to work cheaper and Americans got run off of those jobs. Our blue collared workforce has been severely impacted by this and both the employers and illegal aliens are circumventing our immigration and labor laws. These cheap, lawless employers are also passing the social costs of their illegal workforce unto the American taxpayer which costs us billions while these employers pocket the profits. We have limited social and natural resources. They are overcrowding our schools, jails and hospitals.
They are finding work here simply because there are greedy employers that hire them because they work cheaper. Surely you know this. Most Americans aren't refusing to work. Where are you getting this nonsense? For example Americans used to do construction work at a fair wage until millions of illegals flooded our borders willing to work cheaper and Americans got run off of those jobs. Our blue collared workforce has been severely impacted by this and both the employers and illegal aliens are circumventing our immigration and labor laws. These cheap, lawless employers are also passing the social costs of their illegal workforce unto the American taxpayer which costs us billions while these employers pocket the profits. We have limited social and natural resources. They are overcrowding our schools, jails and hospitals.
First, please don't misquote me. I didn't say most Americans, I said many.
Second, are legal immigrants who work in construction and other blue collar jobs getting paid more than the illegals? No, they're not. Their legal status has no bearing on it.
Social programs are costing us billions, no question, but does it really matter if they're legal or not? Many illegals pay taxes. Should a tax-paying, productive illegal be deported while an unproductive legal remains? Not sure I would consider that sound policy.
First, please don't misquote me. I didn't say most Americans, I said many.
Second, are legal immigrants who work in construction and other blue collar jobs getting paid more than the illegals? No, they're not. Their legal status has no bearing on it.
Social programs are costing us billions, no question, but does it really matter if they're legal or not? Many illegals pay taxes. Should a tax-paying, productive illegal be deported while an unproductive legal remains? Not sure I would consider that sound policy.
I wasn't misquoting you just making a statement of my own. It is also untrue that we don't have enough Americans to do blue collared jobs. Who do you think did them before the arrival of cheap, illegal aliens? Legal immigrants are entitled to get paid a fair wage. They have the same rights on the job as Americans do. Some illegals do pay income taxes but it is never enough to cover their enormous social costs with many dependents. Besides, how are they working without committing felony ID theft? If our laws and the rights of citizens mean nothing to you then there is nothing more I can say to you. Yes, our laws state that that illegals should be deported. Their so-called productivity is irrelevant and it should be. There is certain criteria that legal immigrants have to meet to remain here so you are comparing apples to oranges here by making up scenarios.
I'm not saying I want to deport anyone, yet. I'm asking why other posters want to deport illegals for no other reason than being illegal.
Well hello, my friend! Stay awhile and listen... (see if you know that game)
Anyways, if you do hang out here, I am sure some regulars will tell you why they should deported, everything from well well...they are illegal! To, yeah I am just in a cranky mood, im off my meds, deport the illegals! lol.
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Originally Posted by Tyrannis
First, please don't misquote me. I didn't say most Americans, I said many.
Second, are legal immigrants who work in construction and other blue collar jobs getting paid more than the illegals? No, they're not. Their legal status has no bearing on it.
Social programs are costing us billions, no question, but does it really matter if they're legal or not? Many illegals pay taxes. Should a tax-paying, productive illegal be deported while an unproductive legal remains? Not sure I would consider that sound policy.
That is true, I think that they should stay but should be assessed a penalty. I went ahead and did the math on 11 mil illegals by 1500 dollars which would help our economy (not including all the sales tax and property tax that they pay) and it came up to be like 16 billion. That's a lot of money. We could use that money to do something I am sure.
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