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Unread 12-10-2007, 04:43 PM
 
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Salads wilt. Stews in pots get better as the ingredients blend - they become better than the sum of their parts.
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Unread 12-10-2007, 04:44 PM
 
Location: California
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I'd be willing to take that one step further, Synopsis: This country is starting to feel more like an amalgamation of separate "ethno-tribal" groups--all with their own turf, media outlets, competing interests and identities...at least that's how it feels to me in So Cal. It's feeling less and less like a nation and more like a loosely-held confederation of bantus.

I know someone is going to enjoy misinterpreting this as a racist statement.
Hey, thats Capitalism.
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Unread 12-10-2007, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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All good points everyone. At least the conversation is civil!
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Unread 12-10-2007, 04:51 PM
 
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No, that's social regression to a state preceding the advent of the nation-state (and, possibly civil society) to a point when we each think of ourselves as members of separate clans rather than as Americans (or any other unified national group).
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Unread 05-19-2009, 02:15 PM
 
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These politicians are playing "Micky the Dunce" when it comes to illegal immigration. They know damned well what the problems are, but THEY don't have to live in overcrowded neighborhoods, or compete for jobs with illegals, or worry about crime where they live, or listen to a foreign language wherever they go, etc.

They do this "superior dance", pretending to be more "compassionate" than us, but it's really because they don't have to DEAL with the problems on a daily basis, since they're separated by wealth. You can bet your bippy that they'd be thinking just like us, if they had to live "down here" with the peons.
funny you mention live down there with them, because thats when its gets nasty... when they pushed for all those loans for non documented income for minorites they new what they where doing. now we have to spread the wealth and take it since the guy from across the border cant make his house payment since the labor jobs have dryed up. add insult to injury pay taxes then loose all your hard fought for years of home equity to the bastards that are eating off food stamps and living rent free while he packs more of in for the final wait for morgage to go reo ! more money I am robbed of simply beacuse i have no protection our goverment only wants money and votes.
see this about the cdr these people are out to get every usa person to pay so we have next to nothing but our prays for gov to help! right BS!
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Unread 05-19-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yes,ones that came here legally and who did not violate the law.
Nor use tax payer funded social services like wic, SSI or welfare, come here strictly to have a kid, drive without a license, registration or insurance. They didn't abuse the public school system, work under the table to avoid taxes or undercut labor, create underground economies, increase crime ten fold or send back billions in remittances never to be seen again, and above all......

they assimilated, they did so to a point I could have a freaking coversation with them.... in ENGLISH.
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Unread 05-19-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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I disagree with you. The reason we are seeing people stand up and defend this country is because the invasion is much worse now than it was in the past. Most reputable sources have the invasion at around 20 to 30 million strong. The invasion has gotten to the point where they are doing much more damage to America than an actual invading military army would. We are losing our borders, language, culture, and our very sovereignty itself.
Oh noes!! The sky is falling!!!... (Had an urge to do that after reading through this thread.

I wonder how much of this is true. I would like to see figures of the damage illegal aliens are doing corrected for the benefits of having them here. ( Like keeping the industries that depend on their cheap labor alive. ) I think comparing it to an invading army is ridiculous, maybe we should ask some European countries, Japan, Iraq, etc. if they think it's similar.

The borders are in the same place, I do not think this is any government's plot to populate a certain area of this country to later have it vote it sovereign. Language, and culture, uhmm, I would think more of a merger than of a take over. I like to think of language and culture as an evolving matter, constantly changing. And the U.S. culture in particularly adapts and changes rather fast and is more of a mix of cultures than a monolithic one, to the point that the culture of a city-raised resident of New York or L.A. is different from someone born in a rural location with under 1K people. Neither is better, yet both are different.
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Unread 05-19-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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Oh noes!! The sky is falling!!!... (Had an urge to do that after reading through this thread.

I wonder how much of this is true. I would like to see figures of the damage illegal aliens are doing corrected for the benefits of having them here. ( Like keeping the industries that depend on their cheap labor alive. ) I think comparing it to an invading army is ridiculous, maybe we should ask some European countries, Japan, Iraq, etc. if they think it's similar.

The borders are in the same place, I do not think this is any government's plot to populate a certain area of this country to later have it vote it sovereign. Language, and culture, uhmm, I would think more of a merger than of a take over. I like to think of language and culture as an evolving matter, constantly changing. And the U.S. culture in particularly adapts and changes rather fast and is more of a mix of cultures than a monolithic one, to the point that the culture of a city-raised resident of New York or L.A. is different from someone born in a rural location with under 1K people. Neither is better, yet both are different.

Industries that hire illegals are doing Americans no good at all and there is no loss if they go under. They can be replaced by honest industries that pay legal wages and follow the laws.

If someone can only make a business run by hiring particular foreigners, then they ought to simply relocate their business to that foreign country.
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Unread 05-19-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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Imagine a business owner in Mexico, deep inside Mexico that said he could only hire American citizens, that he felt Mexicans were too lazy, wanted too high of pay, and no matter what the laws are there, was going to hire only Americans. Citizens of Mexico need never apply.

How well would that go over in that country? Yet we're constantly told the same thing.
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Unread 05-19-2009, 08:10 PM
 
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Imagine a business owner in Mexico, deep inside Mexico that said he could only hire American citizens, that he felt Mexicans were too lazy, wanted too high of pay, and no matter what the laws are there, was going to hire only Americans. Citizens of Mexico need never apply.

How well would that go over in that country? Yet we're constantly told the same thing.
If such an event did, in fact, occur, my guess would be that the local Mexican populace would frown upon this practice.
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