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Old 12-07-2007, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The administration's plan to use technology and physical barriers to keep people from illegally entering the country is back on track this week.

A virtual fence along a 28-mile stretch of Arizona will get the government's conditional stamp of approval Friday, allowing it to move into the next testing phase.


Plans to construct 'virtual fence' moving ahead (broken link)
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:49 PM
 
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The virtual fence is a joke. It's a pretend fence that's very popular on the liberal side of the aisle.

The virtual fence is virtually useless.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The virtual fence is a joke. It's a pretend fence that's very popular on the liberal side of the aisle.

The virtual fence is virtually useless.
Could you explain why you feel it is useless?
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:00 PM
 
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Could you explain why you feel it is useless?

It doesn't provide an actual barrier that stops illegal aliens. Besides, the border patrol already knows where the illegals are crossing. Border patrol detention facilities are usually packed year round. Also illegal aliens will just use a bait and switch technique. The coyotes know the manpower assets of ICE are extremely limited. They'll simply send a number of illegals down a known path where they know they'll get caught and tie up the border patrol agents. Then when the border patrol is tied up, they'll take the rest of the illegals and the drugs across somewhere else.

What we need is an actual barrier fence to keep them out.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What we need is an actual barrier fence to keep them out.
There are a number of areas where construction of a physical barrier simply is not feasible

Border Patrol is increasing patrols along the southern border. The virtual fence will let the Patrol know when someone has crossed and they can then intercept them

Add to the fence, the increased number of Border Patrol, Drone aerial surveillance and other measures - the number of crossings is decreasing
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:33 PM
 
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There are a number of areas where construction of a physical barrier simply is not feasible

Border Patrol is increasing patrols along the southern border. The virtual fence will let the Patrol know when someone has crossed and they can then intercept them

Add to the fence, the increased number of Border Patrol, Drone aerial surveillance and other measures - the number of crossings is decreasing
Too many drug runners, terrorists and illegals are getting in. The virtual fence is a joke and nowhere as effective as an actual barrier. But it wouldn't surprise me to hear the number of illegals crossing is decreasing, with 20 to 30 million of them already here we are filling up rather rapidly. And the border patrol can't intercept them all. They simply are over matched. By their own admission the catch only a very small percentage of illegals crossing over.

I would agree we need a comprehensive border policy. A real fence, drones, the military armed to the teeth, and faster processing of illegal aliens.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:51 AM
 
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What a waste of money that will be. Don't we throw enough money away on dumb projects already?
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What a waste of money that will be. Don't we throw enough money away on dumb projects already?
May I ask - why do you feel it is a waste of money?

And, before you respond understand that no one has suggested that a fence will stop, 100%, of the illegal crossings. But, our borders are so pourous that without a barrier of some kind, along with enhanced enforcement, which is also happeing, the very security of this nation is a risk
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