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Old 12-10-2007, 02:54 PM
 
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Pretty ironic that every single Republican candidate has forfeited the chance to represent the stance that most posters here hold.

My guess is that none of the leading Republican primary candidates can get a vote here.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yeah you don't sound to happy here, I would buy your plane ticket with that kind of misery. I choose to love California's diversity, I wouldn't be able to stand living in a 80% or more white county, it would be boredom. There are so many people who hide under the bed when they hear diversity, I choose to embrace it completely.
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Some Mexicans are White; genetically speaking, most of the rest are American Indian.

Not so long ago; Irish, Italians and many other 'Anglos' were not considered to be of the 'White' race yet Japanese and Chinese were-----------interesting how racial 'lines' get shifted back and forth to suit the putative 'ruling class'
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Pretty ironic that every single Republican candidate has forfeited the chance to represent the stance that most posters here hold.

My guess is that none of the leading Republican primary candidates can get a vote here.
Unfortunately; you are 100% correct.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:53 PM
 
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So, does this mean we're all voting for Tancredo in the primaries?
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:00 PM
 
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Yes. I'm voting for Tancredo in the Primaries.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:03 PM
 
Location: California
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I also believe in amnesty for illegals who have been living here for 3 years or longer. Just fine them x amount of money, and then you can use that money to secure the borders. Simple as that.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:25 PM
 
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I've heard that the fees collected for various levels of immigration processing hardly pay for the amount it costs us to do the processing itself. Not long ago, in fact, there was a bit of a controversy over processing fees were being raised. Some groups/people even claimed it was "discriminatory."

So, I would imagine that creating a fine that would be high enough to pay for border security after the processing has been paid for would probably be exorbitant for the majority of illegals. (Then, some group would undoubtedly bring a suit over it.)

What's more important is that processing fees collected from the illegal population could not possibly cover the amount they cost our society in depressed wages, job loss, property inflation (due to scarcity), incarceration, education, urban blight, emergency care, crime, congestion, etc.


I'd cast a vote for Tancredo as well if I could be sure it would end up just being a de fact vote for Rudolph.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:33 PM
 
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BTW:

Some Mexicans are White; genetically speaking, most of the rest are American Indian.

Not so long ago; Irish, Italians and many other 'Anglos' were not considered to be of the 'White' race yet Japanese and Chinese were-----------interesting how racial 'lines' get shifted back and forth to suit the putative 'ruling class'

Here in Dallas, Mexican-Americans were counted as 'white' in schools up until the early 1970s.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:34 PM
 
Location: California
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I've heard that the fees collected for various levels of immigration processing hardly pay for the amount it costs us to do the processing itself. Not long ago, in fact, there was a bit of a controversy over processing fees were being raised. Some groups/people even claimed it was "discriminatory."

They have already been raised I believe.

So, I would imagine that creating a fine that would be high enough to pay for border security after the processing has been paid for would probably be exorbitant for the majority of illegals. (Then, some group would undoubtedly bring a suit over it.)

If the so-called numbers that have been discussed are correct and each illegal is charged $350, then $7,000,000,000 will be counted for. What if they refuse to pay? Since they will be legal, they will be tracked. And so will their paycheck. All the Government has to do is charge it to their paycheck as another tax. It really wouldn't be that hard.

What's more important is that processing fees collected from the illegal population could not possibly cover the amount they cost our society in depressed wages, job loss, property inflation (due to scarcity), incarceration, education, urban blight, emergency care, crime, congestion, etc.

$7 Billion would be more than enough to cover the cost of the fence.


I'd cast a vote for Tancredo as well if I could be sure it would end up just being a de fact vote for Rudolph.

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Old 12-10-2007, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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I also believe in amnesty for illegals who have been living here for 3 years or longer. Just fine them x amount of money, and then you can use that money to secure the borders. Simple as that.
simple and very stupid.

want a simple and smart solution? deport all illegals (regardless of criminal record and time spent here), garnish all their assets, build our borders.
NOW THIS IS SIMPLE AND ALSO SMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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