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Old 12-11-2007, 02:27 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Don't those guys dare to call themselves Mexican, or they will face Mexican rage, for God I swear it!



Boom shiva Mahadeva!!!
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Don't those guys dare to call themselves Mexican, or they will face Mexican rage, for God I swear it!

Regardless of your feelings - they do call themselves Mexicans.

And, that is a fact.

They are "representing" Mexicans - they are leaving a very poor impression, to non mexicans, about what true Mexicans are really like.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:33 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Regardless of your feelings - they do call themselves Mexicans.

And, that is a fact.

They are "representing" Mexicans - they are leaving a very poor impression, to non mexicans, about what true Mexicans are really like.
Let karma do it's trick I pity them honestly
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Let karma do it's trick I pity them honestly
You pity is noted.

Does not alter the facts of the moment though -
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:51 PM
 
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You pity is noted.

Does not alter the facts of the moment though -
Yeah but I have the strong feeling that the tide will turn very soon.

Strenght!!!
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Yeah but I have the strong feeling that the tide will turn very soon.
Only time will tell - but, the "tide" will really change in AZ on Jan 1 with the implimation of the new Employer Sanctions law -

Many Illegals have already left - some schools are seeing a reduction in class load size - all good things -

Reports of same or similar coming from Oklahoma and other states

The "tide" may be turning

Arrests and deportments of illegals is skyrocketing. The hotlines to report suspected illegals are heavily ringing -

The "tide" may be turning -
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Only time will tell - but, the "tide" will really change in AZ on Jan 1 with the implimation of the new Employer Sanctions law -

Many Illegals have already left - some schools are seeing a reduction in class load size - all good things -

Reports of same or similar coming from Oklahoma and other states

The "tide" may be turning

Arrests and deportments of illegals is skyrocketing. The hotlines to report suspected illegals are heavily ringing -

The "tide" may be turning -
And those Latinos, etc. who are here legally will do extremely well $$$, I suspect.
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:59 PM
 
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if it were "the people" wouldn't it be "la gente"?

Cambridge Online dictionary lists the following definition of the Spanish word "raza": raza f 1. (casta) race; (estirpe) strain; de ~ (perro) pedigree; (caballo) thoroughbred; de ~ blanca/negra white/black 2. (temperamento) character; de (pura) ~ true

no mention of band. It may be slang to use "la raza" in such a way but it obviously has another, more common meaning, refering to ones ancestory. In this regard it isn't that different from the English word "race", after all they have common Romance roots, cf. Italian "razza", which means breed or type.

La Raza Cósmica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For earliest written use of the term "la raza". Iin this case assosciated with what would later be called "Latin Nationalism".

Regardless, I think La Raza is a pretty benign Mexican-American civil rights organization. Nothing sinister in their motives but their name perhaps, like the "colored" in NAACP, is not really current with the times and may be rooted in racialism.

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Old 12-13-2007, 03:01 PM
 
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Keep this in mind:

NCLR- The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) (translated as the "people" or "race") is a non-profit and non-partisan advocacy group in the United States. Its stated focus is on reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for Hispanics

La Raza- La Raza (Mexican Spanish IPA: [la ˈrasa]; Castilian Spanish IPA: [la ˈraθa]) is a Mexican Spanish phrase which literally translated as "The Race" however a more accurate translation would be "the people" or "the community"

Please make the distinction.
I don't see the distinction at all. When a group calls itself "The Race" it means they are a racist group. In Mexican Spanish there are worlds for "the people" -- la gente or la commuidad. el pueblo. La Raza specifically refers to a particular race.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:05 PM
 
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Your answer is mute, I was referring to the organization. The organization has never organized racist attacks against others.
Not directly -- but when you start a racist group at all -- and instead of working for ALL American citizens then you are promoting something very ugly.

Why should race or ethnicity (as long as someone is a legal citizen) ever be a criteria for anything? Why in this country where race and ethnicity should not get you either excluded or privileges given.
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