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Old 12-14-2007, 12:27 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Wasn't it you, ProLogic, who argued that regardless of how benign the term "white pride" is on it's face, that radical extremism has made it so that the term "white pride" can no longer be used without a racial context?

Copy your entire argument that you made against "white pride" to "La Raza."

There you go. No matter what Mexican teenagers use the term "La Raza" to signify, in AMERICA, the term has a negative connotation, being popularized and co-opted by a bunch of whack jobs with Spanish last names and inferiority complexes.
unfortunately some words get covered with a dark vibration by the misuse of them, and while in some Mexican cities la raza means something nice, in the USA it got another darker connotation
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Old 12-14-2007, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Spanish English translators have "RAZA" as RACE. People would be La gente.

I think RAZA speaks loud and clear.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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well, ॐ SHIVA to la raza

and ॐ SHIVA to ignorance
and ॐ SHIVA to racism
and ॐ SHIVA to divisions
and ॐ SHIVA to evil
and ॐ SHIVA to chaos

ॐ SHIVA MAHADEVA
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: California
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Wasn't it you, ProLogic, who argued that regardless of how benign the term "white pride" is on it's face, that radical extremism has made it so that the term "white pride" can no longer be used without a racial context?

Copy your entire argument that you made against "white pride" to "La Raza."

There you go. No matter what Mexican teenagers use the term "La Raza" to signify, in AMERICA, the term has a negative connotation, being popularized and co-opted by a bunch of whack jobs with Spanish last names and
inferiority complexes.

You can't copy both points, one is already tainted with the blood of racism. La Raza has not been tarnished by the words of racism, even though I disagree with the term.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:03 PM
 
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unfortunately some words get covered with a dark vibration by the misuse of them, and while in some Mexican cities la raza means something nice, in the USA it got another darker connotation
In some Nazi cities it was very much the same. The superiority of the German race didn't have the unnice connotations that it did elsewhere.

Racism is racism.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:05 PM
 
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You can't copy both points, one is already tainted with the blood of racism. La Raza has not been tarnished by the words of racism, even though I disagree with the term.
"Todo por la raza...." (Everything for the race..) -- that's tarnished on it's own. La Raza = the Klan with a Tan.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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"Todo por la raza...." (Everything for the race..) -- that's tarnished on it's own. La Raza = the Klan with a Tan.
ROFL, that's awesome....and true...and scary.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:37 PM
 
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ROFL, that's awesome....and true...and scary.
Also -- when have you ever heard someone from Spain use the word "la raza" to mean "people"? Do the people of Spain have groups called La Raza? and then claim it's just a group called People?
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:08 PM
 
Location: California
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"Todo por la raza...." (Everything for the race..) -- that's tarnished on it's own. La Raza = the Klan with a Tan.
Has anyone ever terrorized anyone saying "Todo por La Raza"? that sounds similar to what Osama is doing in the name of Allah. I don't agree with the literal meaning of the race, because really its not about race. Its true meaning is community. "todo por la raza" = "everything for the community".
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Community, no it means race
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