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Old 05-19-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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SENATOR JOHN McCAIN ON IMMIGRATION REFORM 6-12-13 - YouTube

McCain explains it loud and clear. No wonder why the Silicon Valley in interested in the reform.

 
Old 05-19-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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Please. McCain is a RINO. If by "immigration reform", you mean amnesty, then, no, we certainly don't need that. What is needed is to enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books. Also, we need to make E-verify the law of the land and tweak it so that it picks up things like people who use their kids' SSNs. After that, then everybody in the work force needs to be run through it in order to weed out the 8 million no-match SSNs. If illegal aliens can't find work, they will leave on their own accord. Would you stay someplace if you couldn't find work or collect welfare?

Besides, this thread is about H1-B visas. We certainly don't need to add any more of them. In fact, we need to drastically cut down on the number.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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For every it job we post at work we get hundreds of qualified American applications.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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For every it job we post at work we get hundreds of qualified American applications.
I believe you! However, you never hear the lamestream media mention this fact. Instead, the invasion cheerleaders are constantly telling us that we need illegals because there are jobs that Americans won't do---and we all know what a load of manure that is!
 
Old 05-19-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I believe you! However, you never hear the lamestream media mention this fact. Instead, the invasion cheerleaders are constantly telling us that we need illegals because there are jobs that Americans won't do---and we all know what a load of manure that is!
We still have some visa holders which angers me because they should exhaust all possibilities to fill the position before looking elsewhere. It's programming! It's not like there is a big variation in the language. You either know it well enough to do the job or you don't. There is nothing special about visa holders except the fact they won't complain about crappy working conditions.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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^Spot on!
 
Old 05-19-2014, 06:27 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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There's no STEM shortage. There's a shortage of experienced IT workers willing to do a $50/hr job for $25/hr, though. THAT'S the real problem.

It's a race to the bottom and we're all on the losing end of it.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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We still have some visa holders which angers me because they should exhaust all possibilities to fill the position before looking elsewhere. It's programming! It's not like there is a big variation in the language. You either know it well enough to do the job or you don't. There is nothing special about visa holders except the fact they won't complain about crappy working conditions.
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^Spot on!
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There's no STEM shortage. There's a shortage of experienced IT workers willing to do a $50/hr job for $25/hr, though. THAT'S the real problem.

It's a race to the bottom and we're all on the losing end of it.
Agreed.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, NY
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I don't understand why a programmer should be paid anything more than minimum wage.
 
Old 05-19-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It's not justs the "Silicon Valley", it's the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and just about every other business-representative organization in the USA. The majority of Americans polled on the topic seem to be in agreement on the need for reform, also.
Define reform. Is it the bill passed by the senate? How are the polls worded?
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