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Old 05-20-2014, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Great post, lilyflower!

In the "Work and Employment" forum here on CD, someone recently posted a link to a dice.com article about this very issue. One post in the dice.com article comment section was very telling. A poster said that he was sending his resume to many places. He is an army veteran and an experienced IT worker. He got no responses. Then he tried an experiment---he put an Indian name on his resume and only changed one thing---instead of serving in the US army, he put that he served in the Indian army. All of a sudden lots of people were interested in hiring him!
I am not surprised at all.

 
Old 05-20-2014, 06:19 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Y'all are both right about the H1B scam; I've worked in IT for 16 years and I see it firsthand every day.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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My ex boyfriend is a very talented software engineer works for a fortune 500 company. His whole team has been replaced by Indians.
Replaced? Probably because they weren't as "talented" as you were led to believe. So, "replaced by Indians." From what tribe?
 
Old 05-23-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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Replaced? Probably because they weren't as "talented" as you were led to believe. So, "replaced by Indians." From what tribe?
I have a brother in-law that is an IT man. He has experienced the same thing. It has nothing to do with Americans being inferior workers or being less talented. It's all about the bottom line of profits. Please, you know by "indian" one is talking about one who is from India.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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IT here for 20+ years. I watched it happen in the mid 90's with customer service and maintaining old software being the first to get off shored.

Eventually it came to be entire projects and R&D being doing in other countries.
A PhD in India only costs a company $45K with no US employee tax strings attached.

When I retired my job went to India. They waited until my last week to give me their name so I could "train them".
Not much you can do in 5 days with wacky hours no less.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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Eventually it came to be entire projects and R&D being doing in other countries. A PhD in India only costs a company $45K with no US employee tax strings attached.
1) This isn't the 90's. 2) we're talking about people working in the USA, not outsourcing jobs to a foreign country.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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1) This isn't the 90's. 2) we're talking about people working in the USA, not outsourcing jobs to a foreign country.
No, it's not the 90s (obviously). However, the H1-B visa program needs to be either abolished or revamped so that it is very expensive to bring over an H1-B --- so expensive that companies will see that it would be cheaper to train an unemployed experienced American STEM/IT worker or pay for their relocation costs.

There is no excuse for using H1-Bs while we have thousands of unemployed American citizen STEM/IT workers.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 10:45 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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No, it's not the 90s (obviously). However, the H1-B visa program needs to be either abolished or revamped so that it is very expensive to bring over an H1-B --- so expensive that companies will see that it would be cheaper to train an unemployed experienced American STEM/IT worker or pay for their relocation costs.

There is no excuse for using H1-Bs while we have thousands of unemployed American citizen STEM/IT workers.
And when the majority of H1-Bs are issued to a handful of Indian IT consulting firms. They know exactly how to game the system. The H1-B immigrant of today becomes tomorrow's green card holder. They're slowly taking over IT.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Not illegal immigration, and now it isn't usually immigration at all: Companies link to India by VOIP, your Cisco or Juniper router tech support call gets forwarded to Mumbai. The way I hear, there are entire communities on American hours, sleep during the day, on the job at night.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:50 AM
 
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I have a brother in-law that is an IT man. He has experienced the same thing. It has nothing to do with Americans being inferior workers or being less talented. It's all about the bottom line of profits. Please, you know by "indian" one is talking about one who is from India.
Isn't that what every right-winger in America cares about? What's good for the company and boss is good for all of us? I see it everyday on this forum, how Obama is killing profits and such, now you are against companies making a profit in any way that they can?
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