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Old 06-12-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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I'm trying to figure out why sending them back is bad. Not like they will be killed. If they stay it means more taxes.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Thing is these kids are coming from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, the murder capital of the world. They are being smuggled in by people paid by their parents to get them away from the poverty and the deadly violence going on down there with the thug gangs taking over. It is a humanitarian issue in the sense that the world needs to step up to the plate and do whatever they can to help put an end to the violence which in turn will help stop the tide of kids coming up here. Pressure also needs to be applied to the groups spreading the rumors in those countries that the U.S. is a safe haven for their children. Treating the problem as a humanitarian issue will bring in resources and funds from world organizations so that the U.S. doesn't have to foot the entire bill of dealing with the kids that are here now all by ourselves.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thing is these kids are coming from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, the murder capital of the world. They are being smuggled in by people paid by their parents to get them away from the poverty and the deadly violence going on down there with the thug gangs taking over. It is a humanitarian issue in the sense that the world needs to step up to the plate and do whatever they can to help put an end to the violence which in turn will help stop the tide of kids coming up here. Pressure also needs to be applied to the groups spreading the rumors in those countries that the U.S. is a safe haven for their children. Treating the problem as a humanitarian issue will bring in resources and funds from world organizations so that the U.S. doesn't have to foot the entire bill of dealing with the kids that are here now all by ourselves.
It's in the local newspapers down there.
They even quoted Mr. DHS saying that children coming here are not committing crimes.

And this flood of illegal minors has been going on for three months.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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It's in the local newspapers down there.
They even quoted Mr. DHS saying that children coming here are not committing crimes.

And this flood of illegal minors has been going on for three months.
I feel badly for everyone involved---the local governments down your way, the kids, our government that got this problem dumped on our doorsteps, we tax payers who will foot the bills and the desperate parents of these kids who felt this was the best way to give their kids a future.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Thing is these kids are coming from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, the murder capital of the world. They are being smuggled in by people paid by their parents to get them away from the poverty and the deadly violence going on down there with the thug gangs taking over. It is a humanitarian issue in the sense that the world needs to step up to the plate and do whatever they can to help put an end to the violence which in turn will help stop the tide of kids coming up here. Pressure also needs to be applied to the groups spreading the rumors in those countries that the U.S. is a safe haven for their children. Treating the problem as a humanitarian issue will bring in resources and funds from world organizations so that the U.S. doesn't have to foot the entire bill of dealing with the kids that are here now all by ourselves.
I seriously doubt that these kids are coming here due to deadly violence which puts their lives at risk. If that were so then why didn't their parents who are already here bring them with them in the first place? There is no economic distress (poverty) category for immigration nor should that be since that would mean we would have to take in the 2 billion on this planet that would fit that category. We do have a refugee category when human life is at risk but as I said I seriously doubt that most of these kids are coming here for that reason.

IMO, their parents already here have gotten wind of Obama's proposed amnesty and encouraged their kids whom they deserted to follow them now. Either that or their parents are still in the homeland and are pushing them to come here to get in on the amnesty.

We've invaded other countries who have had similar problems to help their citizens in their own countries but we didn't allow their citizens to come here by the thousands/millions. That's inhumane to our own citizens. I may be wrong but I don't recall other countries willing to send money to us under these kinds of circumstances. The solution isn't to import the world's poor here but to take action within those other countries. I am a Vet but I am not a fan of the latter particularly either. It's time for other countries to take care of their own problems and for a change start caring for our own citizens. It is costing us too much financially to keep getting involved.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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Thing is these kids are coming from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, the murder capital of the world. They are being smuggled in by people paid by their parents to get them away from the poverty and the deadly violence going on down there with the thug gangs taking over. It is a humanitarian issue in the sense that the world needs to step up to the plate and do whatever they can to help put an end to the violence which in turn will help stop the tide of kids coming up here. Pressure also needs to be applied to the groups spreading the rumors in those countries that the U.S. is a safe haven for their children. Treating the problem as a humanitarian issue will bring in resources and funds from world organizations so that the U.S. doesn't have to foot the entire bill of dealing with the kids that are here now all by ourselves.
Ok; please tell us here on CDF why those illegal kids are coming to the US since there's a solid line of Hispanic countries from Mexico to Argentina with Central America in the middle and they ALL use Spanish as their main language.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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I feel badly for everyone involved---the local governments down your way, the kids, our government that got this problem dumped on our doorsteps, we tax payers who will foot the bills and the desperate parents of these kids who felt this was the best way to give their kids a future.
What "desperate parent" would encourage a minor child to come here either unaccompanied or with a coyote? How can any DECENT parent do such a thing? By, either encouraging them to come here unaccompanied or with a coyote, they are leaving these poor kids wide open to exploitation. They are vulnerable. Many girls get raped or sold into prostitution.

OMG! What irresponsible parents these people are!
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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What "desperate parent" would encourage a minor child to come here either unaccompanied or with a coyote? How can any DECENT parent do such a thing? By, either encouraging them to come here unaccompanied or with a coyote, they are leaving these poor kids wide open to exploitation. They are vulnerable. Many girls get raped or sold into prostitution.

OMG! What irresponsible parents these people are!
Agreed and word is many of the girls DID get raped in Mexico. Tho that info seems to be taken down by the "MSM"

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/0...immigrant.html

"Many of the young illegals report horrific abuse at the hands of immigrant smugglers, including being raped, being physically assaulted, and being force to perform slave labor to 'pay off' the costs of their transportation. Hiring a smuggler to take a 13 year old from Honduras to the United States is said to cost $9,000, or far more than the average Honduran family makes in a year."
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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What "desperate parent" would encourage a minor child to come here either unaccompanied or with a coyote? How can any DECENT parent do such a thing? By, either encouraging them to come here unaccompanied or with a coyote, they are leaving these poor kids wide open to exploitation. They are vulnerable. Many girls get raped or sold into prostitution.
And then it seems many are being abused by border patrol agents.
Migrant Children Accuse Border Patrol Agents of Physical and Sexual Assault | The Nation
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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The local newspapers in Central America are telling people the US has an amnesty program going.
They also quoted our beloved leaders who say that "children are not criminals".
Hence the "flood". And this comes on the heels of the WH extending the deferred Action for 2 more years.

Here's what central American newspapers are telling their people:
Central America Newspapers Promote Obama Policies on Illegals
"The children will be accommodated for between three and four months, while their parents or relatives are located in the United States," the report says.

"During their stay, in addition to accommodations and food, children receive English classes, play sports and participate in targeted programs while immigration authorities contact their families," the La Prensa report says.


Illegal minors are also being flown to MA and NH as well as military bases are being converted into orphanages for these children.
The New Dumping Grounds | National Review Online
Well, heck, no wonder they're all flooding in here if this is what they're being told! Unbelievable!
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