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View Poll Results: Do you support a Border Fence?
Yes 68 80.95%
No 15 17.86%
Other Explain 1 1.19%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:28 AM
 
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A wall is no solution, it's just a way to waste money.

So far I've only seen one rational idea here. Everify all jobs, enforce severe penaltys on the employer, and do it for renters as well.

But for some reason the "job creators" don't want that....hmmmm wonder why?
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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A wall is no solution, it's just a way to waste money.

So far I've only seen one rational idea here. Everify all jobs, enforce severe penaltys on the employer, and do it for renters as well.

But for some reason the "job creators" don't want that....hmmmm wonder why?
No they just want the peanut gallery to talk about figuratively flogging the brown, unwashed masses from Mexico to divert attention away from the only real, practical solution. Best to keep the knuckle-draggers busy with racism to chase them away from the real culprits. Racism is the tool the elites use to keep the idiots fighting amongst themselves and others, spinning their wheels. And why not? Racism, diverting whites' attention away from the real problems since 1690. People literally do never learn. Racism has been used to divide and conquer this country ever since slaves were starting to be brought over because they were cheaper than white indentured servants.
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:39 AM
 
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No they just want the peanut gallery to talk about figuratively flogging the brown, unwashed masses from Mexico to divert attention away from the only real, practical solution. Best to keep the knuckle-draggers busy with racism to chase them away from the real culprits. Racism is the tool the elites use to keep the idiots fighting amongst themselves and others, spinning their wheels. And why not? Racism, diverting whites' attention away from the real problems since 1690. People literally do never learn. Racism has been used to divide and conquer this country ever since slaves were starting to be brought over because they were cheaper than white indentured servants.
Are you not aware that Mexicans enjoy the largest quotas by far for legal immigration into our country? The objection is to all illegal aliens. The racism isn't on the part of those of us for the rule of law. Illegal immigration "is" a real problem in this country for all Americans not just white people. You don't want any derogatory remarks made about brown people and yet here you are making derogatory remarks about white people. The hypocrisy is simply amazing. If there are any derogatory remarks made about Mexicans aka brown people it is only about those here illegally and their ethnocentric supporters.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:13 AM
 
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That is exactly why we have the Army secure those porous areas. Once you secure what you can with confidence the Army can narrow down likely avenues of approach.
Obama needs to be Commander rnd Chief for once in his Presidency
Enforce e-verify and employer enforcement.

Being retired Army for 22 years in the Infantry it is possible. The Army can secure and arrest while the boarder Patrol expedites deportation. Back charge those countries dumped their poor and children on the US.

I grow tired of folks just like you who is basically throwing your hands up, There is a solution and we need to be strong about security our boarders.
It is the ONLY way.

But, let the Army do their job.....people will be hurt....people will be killed......at first.....and when they do.....do not put the Army or, soldiers on trail.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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A wall is no solution, it's just a way to waste money.

So far I've only seen one rational idea here. Everify all jobs, enforce severe penaltys on the employer, and do it for renters as well.

But for some reason the "job creators" don't want that....hmmmm wonder why?
And the factories run illegally....by illegals????

They are out there.

My sister in law sews in one......everyday but, Sunday.

She makes pretty good money.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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A wall is no solution, it's just a way to waste money.

So far I've only seen one rational idea here. Everify all jobs, enforce severe penaltys on the employer, and do it for renters as well.

But for some reason the "job creators" don't want that....hmmmm wonder why?
I'm not seeing all these supposed unemployed Americans rushing to the farms to pick produce all day or being happy with jobs that are akin to house slaves. Much as people dont like illegals they fill a gap that Americans are unwilling to fill,also the Mexicans i've known are hard working people and are an asset to America rather than a liability.. As for everify? its rather easy to get good quality id that an employer could never verify as being fake. Ads like these are rather common across the USA, i've deleted the contact info..

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Old 06-16-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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First....it is NOT Mexicans that is being discussed......it is illegals.

Any times there is a lot of rebuilding in the US.....after fires...wind damage.....there are good construction jobs......until the illegals get there.....they do take jobs from US workers.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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First....it is NOT Mexicans that is being discussed......it is illegals.

Any times there is a lot of rebuilding in the US.....after fires...wind damage.....there are good construction jobs......until the illegals get there.....they do take jobs from US workers.
If thats the case whats the point of the fence?
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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If thats the case whats the point of the fence?
To stop illegals.....or, do you see it as a good thing they are taking jobs from those here legally???
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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With the proposed wall being between Mexico and the USA Who are these illegals if not Mexicans that are going to cross miles of desert to scale a wall then cross more miles of desert and are going to just walk into good paying American construction jobs.
As for taking American jobs? i'd suspect if Americans were doing these jobs there would be no demand for illegals to do the job.
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