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View Poll Results: Do you support a Border Fence?
Yes 68 80.95%
No 15 17.86%
Other Explain 1 1.19%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-16-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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Why not just mine the whole strip between the huge walls and have guard towers every couple of hundred feet manned by guys with big guns, penalty for crossing the border? death,
Then another wall of death could be built to keep out those dastardly Canadians who represent a large demographic of illegals.
How you would deal with those crossing the borders by car,bus,plane,train,boat i have no idea.
They are very likely legal......how long they stay can make a difference.

Just be at the border in Detroit in the morning and evening......there is a stream of cars with people legally coming to work.....then going home.
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Old 06-16-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm not seeing all these supposed unemployed Americans rushing to the farms to pick produce all day or being happy with jobs that are akin to house slaves. Much as people dont like illegals they fill a gap that Americans are unwilling to fill,also the Mexicans i've known are hard working people and are an asset to America rather than a liability.. As for everify? its rather easy to get good quality id that an employer could never verify as being fake. Ads like these are rather common across the USA, i've deleted the contact info..
https://www.numbersusa.org/pages/jobs-americans-wont-do
Only 4% of illegals work in agriculture. Hmmmmm Unlimited VISA's are available to farmers seeking to hire legal immigrants for these jobs.
What of the construction industry? How many citizens lost their career to Low balling illegals?
It not a case of won't do these jobs. It is a case of wanting a fair wage to do these jobs. Do you really think that the greedy employers pass on the savings to you or I?
Hard working illegals who don't pay taxes and violate a number of laws. We produce enough criminals on our own. We have no need to import more.
The myth of Jobs Americans won't do has been busted a number of times.
E-Verify. My company did it. 2 or 3 years ago. You needed multiple documents and they had to match up. Birth certificate and Social security card. Passport and SS card or Birth certificate. Yes forgeries can be done. What percentage of the illegals will be able to get it done?
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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I'm not seeing all these supposed unemployed Americans rushing to the farms to pick produce all day or being happy with jobs that are akin to house slaves. Much as people dont like illegals they fill a gap that Americans are unwilling to fill,also the Mexicans i've known are hard working people and are an asset to America rather than a liability.. As for everify? its rather easy to get good quality id that an employer could never verify as being fake. Ads like these are rather common across the USA, i've deleted the contact info..
Uh, manye 1 illegal alien out of 20 is doing farm work. Why should the other 19 even be allowed here at all??
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Funny it never occurs to so called fiscally responsible conservatives to end the expensive welfare programs and drug war that lure so many accross. Rather they'd show faulty economic thinking by proposing to grow the police state by placing troops on the border and building an expensive boondoggle of a fence complete with checkpoint charlies ala E.Berlin.
Tell me the difference between the two parties again?
whoop whoop ! Exactly. Punish the corporations, as well. Make it punishable to hire illegal immigrants/aliens.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:17 AM
 
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Uh, manye 1 illegal alien out of 20 is doing farm work. Why should the other 19 even be allowed here at all??
When you have a have not country next to America i'd say people crossing into the USA to find a better life is an inevitability.
Build all the walls you want its not going to change the illegal immigration stats.

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:24 AM
 
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They are very likely legal......how long they stay can make a difference.

Just be at the border in Detroit in the morning and evening......there is a stream of cars with people legally coming to work.....then going home.
Sure they are legal until they dont return. If i wanted to come to America illegally i certainly wouldnt waste my time sneaking across a desert then dealing with a wall i.d just come through a regular border crossing,once in the USA i'd get the documentation i need and live happily ever after in America.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:11 AM
 
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A little humor pow_html
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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whoop whoop ! Exactly. Punish the corporations, as well. Make it punishable to hire illegal immigrants/aliens.
Agreed, however it has to be proven that they "knowingly" hired illegal aliens. The big shots in corporations don't do the hiring. They have personnel department employees that do. Most large corporations aren't guilty of it anyway. It is usually smaller companies that do and even mom and pop businesses. If e-verify is implemented across the board none of them would be able to get away with it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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When you have a have not country next to America i'd say people crossing into the USA to find a better life is an inevitability.
Build all the walls you want its not going to change the illegal immigration stats.
Uh; that's NOT our problem. Maybe Mexico needs to totally fail before it wakes up and starts taking care of business. We don't owe that place a thing.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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I guess to be on the safe side just dont hire any one that looks foreign or has some form of accent..
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